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markwhittington9
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:15 pm Up
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I've had a good look around and cant seem to find any similar problems but am hoping one of you guys/girls on here can help me,

so the story is,

car stood for 3months - occasionally started to keep battery charged etc,
put car back on the road Thursday night,
used for two short journeys Thursday night and Friday morning (under 3 miles)
used Saturday morning for approx 12 miles, same again in the afternoon.
used Saturday evening got 1/2 mile down the road, put my foot down got to 6000rpm and it cut out, no coughing or rough running just turned off!
not been able to restart it since,
only DTC present was p0341 - cam sensor
have checked spark - fuel - compression all good!
new plugs fitted - left plugs out to dry cylinders from excess fuel
replaced cam sensor
changed coil pack with spare i had laying around
removed vvt solenoid - cant see anything obvious but not sure what it should look like!
engine tries to start it seems like its going to everytime you try

so i'm out of ideas only thing i'm left thinking is has the timing belt skipped a couple teeth? both cams turn together, belt is tight (have only pulled top cover back) they don't look to be out of line, would just a couple teeth out stop it starting or just make it run rough?!

HELP lol

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I guess you answered your own questions, since every thing you checked is good, that leaves us with the chance of a skipped teeth in timing belt which makes the car not able to start.
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markwhittington9
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:19 pm Up
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thats what i thought just thought i'd ask if anyone knew of anything similar before i strip that bloody cambelt out!
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i take it you have checked all the fuses ?? i only ask as its not a easy jobs to do a cambelt on a 180 so check all the silly easy things first.
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markwhittington9
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yeah sure have Sad
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broadblaster
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i guessed you would have but you never know mate, only other thing i could think to try is see if it will start with easy start in the air inlet ok i don't reallt like the stuff but if it did start even for a few seconds you would know if its the timeing or not and tbh if the belt has slipped i doubt it would do any more damage
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markwhittington9
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its weird because all compression's are good so i'm guessing no valve damage etc but it literally starts for a second and dies!
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have you checked the fuel is getting to the injectors ??? or taken the fuel supply off from the fuel rail and seen if it comeing up from the tank all ok
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markwhittington9
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:42 pm Up
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yeah took fuel pipe off rail and it pumps out loads while cranking, plugs and pistons were wet too so its definitely getting fuel
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HMM tbh i'm runing out of ideas i just feel that its unlikely to be belt slipped ok i know its possable but as you say with good compression it seems unlikely to me. as said you could try easy start as a last ditch attempt
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JamieM
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How random, pretty sure you're the guy who owns my olddddd 180 BW53?

Hope you can get it sorted!

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markwhittington9
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yeah i am! its been faultless untill now!
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JamieM
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I really hope it's something easy to fix for you mate!

What milleage is she on nowdays?

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markwhittington9
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so do i but all easy things seem to be out the window!! 114k now! still looks like 30k tho!
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markwhittington9 wrote:
so do i but all easy things seem to be out the window!! 114k now! still looks like 30k tho!

Yeh true it's a shame you reckon you'll fix it if it's k-od the head?

114k wow she's done well! I got it on 30 odd from Car giant in 04 or 5 lol.

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