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 Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:07 am |
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Location: Derby, UK
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Despite the relay clicking there are no lights all round or on the dash when initiating the hazards or left/right indicator.
Also when locking/unlocking there are no lights flashing, but I hear the relay!
Can any advise, I'm guessing it may be a fuse problem, but looked at the fuse board and can't make any sense of it!
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:30 pm |
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Had this on my 106 pretty sure was a fuse, have you got a manual handy to correspond with the fuse box, and just try one of the other same ampage fuses to see if the problem travels, would recommend following the disconnection procedure for battery if messing with the electrics, otherwise can be costly!
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:09 am |
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I've taken a photo of both the bsi fuse box and the internal fusebox
can anyone point me in the right direction regarding the fuse for:
Direction indicators, hazard warning
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:39 am |
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According to this website, you'll be wanting to find the A fuse, which is 15A
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:48 am |
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Is the car pre-plex or multi-plex?
Remember the hazards are on a separate circuit to the indicators until they reach the BSI. From the BSI it is a shared circuit to the bulbs. Each bulbs has it's own individual feed from the BSI.
Check the maxi fuses (MF1 70amp I think) in the engine bay to make sure nothing has come loose when you had your bump. Also check for any damage to the wiring that could have been caused by the bump.
Reboot the BSI to make sure it's not picked up a glitch.
Is there anything else not working?
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Last edited by macca1411 on Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:00 am; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:50 am |
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I've found the fuse and replaced it, locking the car made the lights flash but blew the new fuse!
I've had all the lights and front bumper off, but its now reassembled. I thought a indicator bulb on the nearside had gone, but a volt meter reads through it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:22 am |
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It's preplexed, everything is working apart from the indicators, and hazards so can only assume its the loom or bulb!
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:28 am |
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Take each bulb out and check that it lights up using a battery and couple of pieces of wire. It's possible that a bulb could have been damaged in the impact and is causing a short, although this usually happens in heavy impacts, if the bulb was old and fragile it could have failed.
If all bulbs light up, then it could be a short in the wiring. This is a long tedious process to trace the fault as you need to check the continuity of each wire in turn using a multimeter.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:35 am |
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not too sure about yours but im certain my fuse was one of the ones in the very bottom row the 15A on the left double check your fuses and the plugs that surround the fuse compartment just in case.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:11 pm |
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Maybe the hazard switch is bad, is yours the double type with the central locking switch next to it.
Try taking the cover off and playing around, maybe a wire loose.
I also thought indicators do not have a fuse, that they run through a relay inside the bsi.
Mine does not have fuses anyhow.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:19 pm |
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| danhodson wrote: |
I've found the fuse and replaced it, locking the car made the lights flash but blew the new fuse!
I've had all the lights and front bumper off, but its now reassembled. I thought a indicator bulb on the nearside had gone, but a volt meter reads through it. |
Doesn't mean it's OK, it could be shorted (the actual bulb).
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:28 pm |
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| DREWDEN wrote: |
I also thought indicators do not have a fuse, that they run through a relay inside the bsi.
Mine does not have fuses anyhow. |
Yours is multi-plexed, so different wiring system.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:46 pm |
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| macca1411 wrote: |
| DREWDEN wrote: |
I also thought indicators do not have a fuse, that they run through a relay inside the bsi.
Mine does not have fuses anyhow. |
Yours is multi-plexed, so different wiring system. |
Every single thing has a fuse on a car for safety reasons and system integrity.
There are also a few of them on the front part of the BSI (bottom-right of fuses in your cabin group pic).
This is both for mux and non-mux versions of vehicles.
I would definately change that bulb incase filament has shorted, which is rare but certainly does happen.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:53 pm |
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I removed the 2 front bulbs and popped a new fuse in, tested the lights and it popped the fuse. I disconnected the battery, replaced the fuse and tried again and it worked. I then plugged the two fronts in and all is well exempt near side won't light up. I've tried two bulbs in it and neither work, so could be a faulty connection
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:19 am |
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I've managed to fix this issue now, and some how my car sailed through its MOT despite being slightly mangled.
I've now got an issue with my radio asking for the code every single time I start the car, almost as if the permanent live isn't working?
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