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 Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:51 pm |
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A friend has a 1.1 that seems to suffer regular coil pack failure every 2 years or so. I have not looked at the car and only just got to hear about this from my wife as it is her friend.
A quick look on the net and it seems there is either a black or grey type plug on the coil pack and I assume that is car dependent also prices vary from about £30 to £140. Are the cheap ones to be avoided at all cost (it is an old car and they don't have much money) and is there any reason these fail so often?
I don't know if previous replacements have been genuine Peugeot or not and whether cheap pattern part is reason for failure. That would be an easy to conclude reason but are there any other reasons that these fail so often?
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:43 am |
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Anybody? Shameless bump.
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| Morris 1000, Austin 1100, Escort Mk2, Fiat Mirafiori, Alfa 33, Alfa GT Junior, Alfasud, Alfetta GTV (2x), Alfa 164 3.0 V6, Alfa 164 2.0, Alfa 75 V6, Alfa 156 2.4 (diesel remapped 200bhp), Alfa 147 GTA (3.6 295bhp), Alfa 159 (diesel remapped 245bhp 300ft.lbs @ 2500rpm)
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 am |
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There is a make of pack that doesn't like certain plugs ...
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:29 am |
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:35 am |
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That's it .. 
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:25 am |
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OK, I looked at the colour issue a while back.
1) The colour on the coil pack is not neccesarily the same as the connector of the loom colour: as fitted at the factory. (eg could be grey socket/black plug, or black/black).
2) If it's multiplexed there are two different type coilpacks, both with black connector on them.
3) Only way to make sure you get the right one is VIN check in servicebox to get the OEM part number and take it from there.
If the coilpacks trully are failing that often, then the ECU is faulty in all likelyhood (eg passing DC).
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:17 pm |
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make sure you have the OEM spark plugs.
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:23 pm |
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| Timon2210 wrote: |
| make sure you have the OEM spark plugs. |
+1, everyone should have them. 
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:55 pm |
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eurocarparts are spot on for price i had a sagem coilpack and ngk spark plugs in mine which didnt go very well
i bought a valeo one and bosch spark plugs from euro for less than £55
also if you give them your reg theyll run it through so you dont have to worry the only difference i could tell is one connectors black ones grey
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:03 pm |
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Sounds to me you might have another fault lurking about. Next time it happens, get the fault code written down!
Sageam are a grey area, we did supposedly suffer a few issues with them, but that could have been when they didn't have the condenser attached.
Genuine is normally vaelo or sageam, and if anything I rate NGK plugs better than genuine by any standards, as they are just s**t in my eyes. Taken out of one box, new label and shipped out again
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:42 am |
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| V9977 wrote: |
| Timon2210 wrote: |
| make sure you have the OEM spark plugs. |
+1, everyone should have them. |
Yes they should  
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:05 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
Sounds to me you might have another fault lurking about. Next time it happens, get the fault code written down!
Sageam are a grey area, we did supposedly suffer a few issues with them, but that could have been when they didn't have the condenser attached.
Genuine is normally vaelo or sageam, and if anything I rate NGK plugs better than genuine by any standards, as they are just s**t in my eyes. Taken out of one box, new label and shipped out again |
Genuine are Eyquem (French) and are quite dear even directly from the manufacturer. Are you refering to Bosch which is what a lot of 'dealerships' are fitting?
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:38 pm |
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Normally we are only supplied with valeo due to superceding of parts
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:52 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| Normally we are only supplied with valeo due to superceding of parts |
No meant the spark plugs.
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:03 pm |
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the OEM ones can be Eyquem ,or Bosch ,as long that they match the part number,then there is no problem.
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