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Judder in 3rd, 4th & 5th
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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:27 am Up
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I have a judder almost like driving over a rumble strip under reasonably hard acceleration upto 50 in 3rd, 4th & 5th gear.

The clutch isn't slipping or is the judder a sign of clutch slip?

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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:09 am Up
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Anyone?
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Edward
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Flywheel wobble???
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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:42 am Up
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I do have an oscillating noise which happens in neutral as well as pulling away- I thought it was alternator belt, but it isn't.

Is the judder hiding the clutch slipping?

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MrBSI
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:43 am Up
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Do you hear a little squeak from under the bonnet when you switch the engine off?
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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:00 am Up
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It's not something I normally hear as radio is on, but i'll listen intently tonight when I get home from work.

What if I do?

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MrBSI
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206HdiGti wrote:
It's not something I normally hear as radio is on, but i'll listen intently tonight when I get home from work.

What if I do?

If it squeaks as the flywheel stops it means the DMF is on its way out so it will be new DMF & clutch time Wink

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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:54 am Up
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In hindsight i've had that whole job priced up, so it's all good Surprised
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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:24 pm Up
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Yeah there is an oscillating squeak when I turn the engine off
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i get a similar judder on my gti derv down to a joint partnership of dmf and worn engine mounts
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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:48 am Up
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Mine has been squeaking for the last 30k ish (since my ownership) to be honest.

When these things go, do they leave you stranded or will it destroy the gearbox as well?

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206HdiGti wrote:

When these things go, do they leave you stranded or will it destroy the gearbox as well?

Keep driving it & we will find out Whistle...

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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:37 am Up
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Will do.

My other car should be on the road next weekend anyway so if it does go I won't have to rush around getting it fixed.

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206HdiGti
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:00 am Up
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Further more to this, i've discovered when the engine is under load, i.e. when the turbo comes on boost that's when the judder occurs.
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kandlbarrett
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:48 am Up
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No surprise there. That is when you will get the biggest bang and torque loads.
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