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Front subframe differences - GTI 180 Rod Conversion
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AWK-53
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:31 pm Up
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I've a GTI 180 that I'm building for racing and want to ditch the cable gear change and swap to the rod setup. I know I need to change the subframe but which one's can be used? I don't think they are all the same so which one do I need or do I just get a 138 GTI one?

There's 3 206's in the local scrappy but none GTI's so thought I'd ask before going to a proper breakers and getting a 138 subframe.

Any help appreciated

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:14 am Up
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You cant just use the rods because it will hit the exhaust manifold. That's why the 180 used the cable set up in the first place.
The only difference I know if with the 180 subframe is the mounts or the exhaust are welding to it.

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Does the 180 have the tower welded on to take the gearchange rod ball linkage Question
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the gti 180 subframe has the mount for the rod change gear selector.
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Edward wrote:
You cant just use the rods because it will hit the exhaust manifold. That's why the 180 used the cable set up in the first place.
The only difference I know if with the 180 subframe is the mounts or the exhaust are welding to it.

Thanks for the replies, I'm gona be using a different manifold to the 180 one so hopefully that shouldn't be a problem.

I'll see if I can put a pic up - where would the tower be?

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Quick pic of my 180 subframe, is that the tower just in front of the steering rack?

 

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Looks identical to the 138 subframe.

 


 

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yes thats the one

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Cheers Simpsonrc that's great Very Happy
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You dont need to change subframe on GTI 180 for gear rods. Just change your exhaust manifold for clearance.
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