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1999 206 gti 136bhp poorly engine :-(
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paddythechef
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:56 pm Up
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Hi there boys and girls i'm needing your help :-). I'm new here so please be gentle haha. I bought a 206 gti 2 months and all seemed well until last week where I've noticed a rattle coming from the engine bay which having looked on various sites could be the manifold gasket????, also the car seems to be misfiring when ticking over and some times doesn't start first time. Hope you guys can help me as I was thinking of buying a new engine or a donor car to swap them but didn't know the trouble with swapping engines. Anyone done a 180 into a 136 gti???
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Am i correct in thinking you are going to downgrade the 180 from a 180 engine to a 137 engine?

Have you fully serviced the engine?

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Hi thanks for the reply :-), no I haven't I've got the older gti with the 136bhp engine in it but I was wondering what challenges I face if was to swap the old lump for a 180 engine.

Yes I've had the engine serviced but hasn't really made any difference and the main dealer where wanting to take my eyes and sockets out just to look at the car

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Ok that makes more sense.

Use the search feature at the top left of the page. This is a question that gets asked all the time.

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Thanks for the help Smile
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Normal running problem on the 138 engine are down to the coil pack or hydraulic lifters sticking.
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Thanks for that I'll try that at the weekend Smile also what spark plugs would people recommend? ??
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Avoid the NGK plugs and stick to Bosch. The exhaust Manifold has a habit of falling to bits inside which then needs a weld to cure it.
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Why avoid ngk ? I thought NGK are the best.
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If you have a rattle and you think it might be exhaust related please fix that first.
Modern cars have a feedback circuit taking readings from the lambda sensors in the exhaust. If you have an exhaust leak not only does exhaust gas leak out but air gets in. The air has higher O2 in it than exhaust gas does. The lambda sensors see the excess O2 and tell the ECU so the ECU thinks the car isn't getting enough fuel. The ECU richens the mixture (adding excess fuel) to get the lambda reading right.
The excess fuel will foul plugs causing them to misfire, give high fuel consumption and quite quickly destroy your catalytic converter that won't cope with the excess fuel.

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