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 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:09 am |
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Joined: Apr 25, 2013
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Can anyone give me some advise into how hard the subframe is to remove. And will this give me access to remove the exhaust manifold? Any advise appreciated
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:08 am |
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use a mirror and a ratchet, Its not that hard to remove! its only 8 or 12 bolts! 
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:13 am |
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The 138 manifold will just about squeeze out from above. If the 180 manifold will only come out from underneath it's not too difficult to lower the subframe.
There are 4 bolts holding it into the car. You'll need to disconnect the gear linkage too. and the lower engine mount. If you want to completely remove it then you're best taking the ball joints out of the front hubs too.. Take the wishbones with the subframe.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:55 am |
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Thanks Edward, as long as i dont need to remove the engine to remove the exhaust manifold i'm happy. i can leave the drive shafts in the gear box cant i?
If i am taking the lower engine mount off do i need to support the engine? And i dont race i do plan to do the odd track day but usually just sit in traffic so is there anypoint upgrading bush?
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:26 pm |
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Drive shafts stay and you don't need to support the engine. You'll have to undo the two nuts holding the steering rack on the sub frame too. You'll need to provide support for the rack with some timber or Axle stands.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:22 pm |
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i was wondering bout the steering rack, are you talking from experience because i was unsure if the rack will be in the way of the manifold droping out, if it is in the way where would i disconnect it.
thanks
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:12 am |
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Well if the rack doesn't go low enough just one bolt disconnects the steering column from the rack. That will allow plenty of room. Yes I've removed my subframe a couple of times.
There is also a bracket on the front of the subframe that holds the PAS pipes in place. That needs removing but it's a simple job.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:03 am |
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sweet cant thank you enough been putting the job off for a year now because of poo weather, now its time. going to stick my AVO GTZ coil overs on it at the same time just waiting for top collets to come through the post.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:40 pm |
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when refitting the steering rack does the system need to be bleed ?
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:52 pm |
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You don't need to disconnect the hoses. Just lower the rack out of the way.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:01 am |
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Already have lol wanted it out the way for other stuff ta.
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