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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:24 pm |
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Joined: Aug 01, 2010 Posts: 607
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Location: Stevenage
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This keep happening to me.
My air bag light keeps flagging up, even after having it cleared, it stays off for about 2 weeks then pops up again.
I had it read, and it's to do with the passenger side air bag.
The driver side had 2 plugs, one going into it's own connector, and another plug going into a double connector with one connector remaining empty.
The passenger side just has one green plug, and nothing else.
Anyone have any ideas? I did a search but got lost in threads so my apologies if this has been covered a billion times before.
My car is a multiplx 2002, black edition (yes it exists) which apparently came with half leather seats anyway.
I have included some pics of what I'm on about, hope someone can help.
Passenger side (Under seat)
Driver side (Under seat)
Thanks in advance.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:54 pm |
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Joined: Jul 13, 2010 Posts: 1032
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Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden city
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Probably need to cut the plug and solder the wires together, that's what I've had to do on a mates golf, just make sure you use some heat shrink on each wire and fabric tape to protect it.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:00 pm |
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Joined: Jan 10, 2012 Posts: 18
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Location: northants
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Like ukskater01. I had mine cut and soldered. It never came on again.
Before I did this when ever the seat was moved the airbag light would come on. I had to wiggle the cable under the seat to get it to turn off.
I wasn't to keen on doing the cutting myself so got an autoelectricial to do it. The also at the sametime scanned and clear any error codes. Whole lot cost £40
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:04 pm |
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Joined: Aug 01, 2010 Posts: 607
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Location: Stevenage
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I must be a dumb c*not.
Chat wires am I cutting and soldering? all of them?
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:19 pm |
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Joined: Jul 13, 2010 Posts: 1032
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Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden city
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Under the passenger seat you will need to cut the plug out and solder the wires together, I would disconnect the battery for 10 mins before starting work on the airbag system (follow correct procedure to shut down BSI if needed)
Once you finished clear the fault codes and see if it comes back on.
On my 206 I just needed to push the connectors together in the fusebox, I didn't have seat airbags though
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:44 pm |
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Joined: Aug 01, 2010 Posts: 607
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ukskater01 wrote: |
Under the passenger seat you will need to cut the plug out and solder the wires together, I would disconnect the battery for 10 mins before starting work on the airbag system (follow correct procedure to shut down BSI if needed)
Once you finished clear the fault codes and see if it comes back on.
On my 206 I just needed to push the connectors together in the fusebox, I didn't have seat airbags though |
I just want to be clear, so as I don't blow anything up, cut the green plug off, and solder the wires together? and that's it? so does that disconnect the airbag?
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:34 am |
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Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 713
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Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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devildriverxii wrote: |
ukskater01 wrote: |
Under the passenger seat you will need to cut the plug out and solder the wires together, I would disconnect the battery for 10 mins before starting work on the airbag system (follow correct procedure to shut down BSI if needed)
Once you finished clear the fault codes and see if it comes back on.
On my 206 I just needed to push the connectors together in the fusebox, I didn't have seat airbags though |
I just want to be clear, so as I don't blow anything up, cut the green plug off, and solder the wires together? and that's it? so does that disconnect the airbag? |
Given that question, maybe airbags isn't the best of things to play with...
But still, knowing enough to ask for clarification is vastly better than not to...
Unplugging the plug/socket disconnects the airbag, but reconnecting the wires by soldering reconnects the airbag and also makes the connection more permanent and secure compared to the , most likely, intermittent connection the plug/socket is giving you currently.
So - separate the connectors (unplug), cut off the plug / socket on respective 'side', strip wires and attach together (solder) wire A on plug side to wire A' on socket side, etc (just like the plug/socket used to do. Do NOT connect together two wires from 'the same side'.
Before soldering you probably want to slip on shrink tubing onto the wire. After soldering, position tube over the solder joint and apply some heat so the tube shrinks. Might finally want to reinforce with tape.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:38 pm |
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Joined: Aug 01, 2010 Posts: 607
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mtempsch wrote: |
Do NOT connect together two wires from 'the same side'. |
This is why I asked, because that is exactly what I thought you mean lol
Thank you mate.
Could I just use different connectors? something more solid perhaps?
Or just solder them together, which I'll probably do anyway
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:02 pm |
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Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 713
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devildriverxii wrote: |
mtempsch wrote: |
Do NOT connect together two wires from 'the same side'. |
This is why I asked, because that is exactly what I thought you mean lol
Thank you mate.
Could I just use different connectors? something more solid perhaps?
Or just solder them together, which I'll probably do anyway |
>Properly< crimped crimp connectors of the right dimension for the wire is probably just as good as a proper solder joint, especially inside , not exposed to the elements. If you go this route, use a proper ratcheting, locking crimper, not the cheapo ones. For a permanent connection, use the butt style connectors.
This is for loose wire to loose wire - for a wire to fixed plug connection, crimped connections are actually better in a vibrating environment like a car; less likely to break from metal fatigue as the wire moves while the connector is still...
If using crimp connectors, I'd still cover the joint with shrink tubing and tape - you don't want any stray strands peeking out, even less than normally, touching something it shouldn't and setting of the 'bags...
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