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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:18 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Well I ordered my throttle body spacers yesterday and they arrived today.
I realised today I actually have 45mm bodies but I thought they were 42mm. Even though I have 42mm air horns and spacers they still flow more than enough air for the engine.
£98 delivered and should hopefully bring the power band further down the Rev range. I now have an extra 60mm of intake length compared to when the engine was set up.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:18 pm |
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Joined: Jan 12, 2014 Posts: 39
Trade Rating: 0
Location: The Netherlands
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The spacers are pretty smart.
How long is your intake now?
Im on 31cm right now without headlenght.
The powerband is from 5.000rpm till 7500rpm.
Although the torque is dropping fast after 6.000rpm.
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:18 am |
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Joined: Sep 21, 2014 Posts: 231
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Location: stoke on trent
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gotta love a thottle bodied set up, and what a great place for them to be positioned should get decent air flow there
you have got a really good set up there going off your spec fella, what power are you making atm?
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:29 pm |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Posts: 2596
Trade Rating: +17
Location: North West Wales
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andy83 wrote: |
gotta love a thottle bodied set up, and what a great place for them to be positioned should get decent air flow there
you have got a really good set up there going off your spec fella, what power are you making atm? |
Don't ask Tedward about power figures...
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:54 pm |
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Joined: Apr 01, 2014 Posts: 668
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Location: Cornwall
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What does it make ? 170 bhp ?
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2718
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Location: UK
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Less than that because he hasn't got 180 injectors, everyone knows you need them to break the sound barrier.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:17 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Oh but I do have them fitted....
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:17 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Steve206 wrote: |
Less than that because he hasn't got 180 injectors, everyone knows you need them to break the sound barrier. |
What happens if you have ones bigger than 180 injectors? Does time go backwards?
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:34 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2718
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Location: UK
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Sorry Edward!
You better ask project about the quantum physics regarding injector size!
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:42 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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samversteeg wrote: |
How long is your intake now?
Im on 31cm right now without headlenght.
The powerband is from 5.000rpm till 7500rpm.
Although the torque is dropping fast after 6.000rpm. |
I'm on pretty similar. 90mm airhorns, 9.5mm spacers, TB's are 118mm long and according to the Jenvey website the manifold is 98.8mm long. So it looks like I have more or less 320mm. Allowing for maybe 50mm from head flange to inlet valve it's about bang on what Jenvey recommend for a 7300rpm engine.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:36 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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More money spent yesterday. £168 for a proper Jenvey throttle linkage and a new throttle body lever.
Getting the old lever off the throttle body is a little bit difficult though. Its held on with a tiny grub screw and I suspect it's also glued in place. Predictably this make them much more likely to get rounded off. I imagine it will have to get drilled out unfortunately.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:46 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3085
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Location: Essex
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Good mod there Paul.... it is a better set up for the throttle and the cable routes nicely.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:38 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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It looks a lot neater. It's just a bit fiddly to fit. Nearly done though. Will probably keep the standard throttle cable.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:42 pm |
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Joined: Sep 21, 2014 Posts: 231
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Location: stoke on trent
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love this motor top work matey
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:14 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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Almost finished now. Just need to sort the cable. The supplied cable fits the linkage but the other end doesn't fit with the standard Peugeot attachment on the throttle pedal. Can't be too hard to resolve it though.
Next job will be the fuel rail. I want to shift the injectors into the bodies and get a Jenvey fuel rail with Aeroquip fittings and braided hose. There's a connection in the standard Peugeot fuel hose that's behind the drivers side wheel. If I can get an adaptor to fit the standard fitting it will make life easier.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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