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So I bought Fox Racing Alloys...
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Mlachhab
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:27 am Up
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Put them on last night to find that the centre bore of the wheel isn't big enough to fit round the hub at the rear (rookie mistake, I know!). Now my question is how to fix this - is there any sort of adapter/spacer I can source if so where? I've also seen many folk have bored out the wheels however not only am I not comfortable doing this but I don't want to mess up the tracking. The alloys need widened by about a mm to fit over snug. I've also seen a suggestion to just get a spacer but surely this would mean that the wheel is not sitting on the hub distributing the weight.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers!

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Mlachhab wrote:
Put them on last night to find that the centre bore of the wheel isn't big enough to fit round the hub at the rear (rookie mistake, I know!). Now my question is how to fix this - is there any sort of adapter/spacer I can source if so where? I've also seen many folk have bored out the wheels however not only am I not comfortable doing this but I don't want to mess up the tracking. The alloys need widened by about a mm to fit over snug. I've also seen a suggestion to just get a spacer but surely this would mean that the wheel is not sitting on the hub distributing the weight.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers!

Hubcentric spacers ride the cars hub on the 'inside' and provides a 'new hub' on the outside of the spacer for the wheel to rest on.
But what's the ET/offset of the rims, and how much space do you have to play with? Finding the right combo of inner/outer diameter and thickness might be tricky.

Another option might be to check your area for a machine shops that has big lathes or milling machines and have them open up the hole to the required diameter, provided the design allows this w/o excessively weakening the rim.

You say it doesn't fit the rear... Does it fit the front? Has the car had its rear axle changed? (I'd expect them to be the same diameter)

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Mlachhab
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:20 am Up
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mtempsch wrote:
Mlachhab wrote:
Put them on last night to find that the centre bore of the wheel isn't big enough to fit round the hub at the rear (rookie mistake, I know!). Now my question is how to fix this - is there any sort of adapter/spacer I can source if so where? I've also seen many folk have bored out the wheels however not only am I not comfortable doing this but I don't want to mess up the tracking. The alloys need widened by about a mm to fit over snug. I've also seen a suggestion to just get a spacer but surely this would mean that the wheel is not sitting on the hub distributing the weight.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers!

Hubcentric spacers ride the cars hub on the 'inside' and provides a 'new hub' on the outside of the spacer for the wheel to rest on.
But what's the ET/offset of the rims, and how much space do you have to play with? Finding the right combo of inner/outer diameter and thickness might be tricky.

Another option might be to check your area for a machine shops that has big lathes or milling machines and have them open up the hole to the required diameter, provided the design allows this w/o excessively weakening the rim.

You say it doesn't fit the rear... Does it fit the front? Has the car had its rear axle changed? (I'd expect them to be the same diameter)

I only tried the alloy on the rear and wasn't too sure if the hub is the same on front/back. The car is still on standard Axle I believe.

PCD of the wheels is 4x108/4x110. And the info I got about off set and bore was as follows:

came off fiesta which is CB 63.4 and OS 47
also fitted Punto which is CB 58.1 and OS 36

Cheers.

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Vexs
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The center bore size for all 206's is 65.1mm.
You need to find out the ET (offset) of the alloys themselves, knowing the fiesta and punto's fitment is no help.

Check the inside of the wheel for the ET, normally located on the back of a spoke or outer edge, let us know what it is and we can help you with what spacers you could possibly need.

 


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Mlachhab
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Vexs wrote:
The center bore size for all 206's is 65.1mm.
You need to find out the ET (offset) of the alloys themselves, knowing the fiesta and punto's fitment is no help.

Check the inside of the wheel for the ET, normally located on the back of a spoke or outer edge, let us know what it is and we can help you with what spacers you could possibly need.

Couldn't find an 'ET' number (although I had a quick look). I did see 15x6½ JJ. Does that make sense or will it definitely be stated by 'ET'?

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Vexs wrote:
The center bore size for all 206's is 65.1mm.
You need to find out the ET (offset) of the alloys themselves, knowing the fiesta and punto's fitment is no help.

Check the inside of the wheel for the ET, normally located on the back of a spoke or outer edge, let us know what it is and we can help you with what spacers you could possibly need.

Had a look online and looks to me like the ET is 35.

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Mlachhab wrote:
Vexs wrote:
The center bore size for all 206's is 65.1mm.
You need to find out the ET (offset) of the alloys themselves, knowing the fiesta and punto's fitment is no help.

Check the inside of the wheel for the ET, normally located on the back of a spoke or outer edge, let us know what it is and we can help you with what spacers you could possibly need.

Couldn't find an 'ET' number (although I had a quick look). I did see 15x6½ JJ. Does that make sense or will it definitely be stated by 'ET'?

6,5 is the width of the rim in inches (decides how wide tyres you can fit w/o stretching or ballooning)

There should normally be an ET xx marking, possibly together / in combinationwith other numbers (See pic). Could you take pictures of all markings and post?

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Mlachhab
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mtempsch wrote:
Mlachhab wrote:
Vexs wrote:
The center bore size for all 206's is 65.1mm.
You need to find out the ET (offset) of the alloys themselves, knowing the fiesta and punto's fitment is no help.

Check the inside of the wheel for the ET, normally located on the back of a spoke or outer edge, let us know what it is and we can help you with what spacers you could possibly need.

Couldn't find an 'ET' number (although I had a quick look). I did see 15x6½ JJ. Does that make sense or will it definitely be stated by 'ET'?

6,5 is the width of the rim in inches (decides how wide tyres you can fit w/o stretching or ballooning)

There should normally be an ET xx marking, possibly together / in combinationwith other numbers (See pic). Could you take pictures of all markings and post?

Looks to me like the ET is 40. See photos below:

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Barring any other suggestions I would recommend taking the rim to your local rim specialist. Contrary to what a lot of people thing rims can be knocked into the correct shape, cracks repaired etc so they might be able to suggest the best option, re-boring the wheel might be inexpensive and they will weight and track the tyre for you as part of the service Wink
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Spotfist wrote:
Barring any other suggestions I would recommend taking the rim to your local rim specialist. Contrary to what a lot of people thing rims can be knocked into the correct shape, cracks repaired etc so they might be able to suggest the best option, re-boring the wheel might be inexpensive and they will weight and track the tyre for you as part of the service Wink

Thanks! Would rather not go to a specialist preferably. Hopefully I can find some sort of adapter/spacer! Thanks for your help Smile

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Vexs
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Providing the offset and bore is greater than what is needed for the pug adapters can be bought/made no problem.

If you're still stuck finding the ET you can find out taking a few simple measurements. Rather than explaining how just google it as it'll be easier.

 


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Vexs wrote:
Providing the offset and bore is greater than what is needed for the pug adapters can be bought/made no problem.

If you're still stuck finding the ET you can find out taking a few simple measurements. Rather than explaining how just google it as it'll be easier.

There's even a youtube video Smile www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAxJBWUM9Jo

Note that the first measurement is between the spokes, all the way down to the floor. (the surface the outside edge of the rim rests on)

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