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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:30 pm |
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Doesnt the standard air box go nowhere near the trumpets though.
I realise you should have the ''socks'' on the trumpets, although the long version that covers all four rather than the individual trumpets, but i thought TBs acted as (As shocking as this sounds) A Super super induction kit?
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:32 pm |
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They do, but you still need to use some sort of filter! I would have thought the standard air intake pipe was a bit restrictive?
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:33 pm |
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The standard air box has nothing to do with the filtration apart from "housing" it.
The standard air box is for silencing & delivering cold air. Something like the ACT/Longmans/Jenvey airbox is good for silencing, looks smart & can house a single filter for all the trumpets. The socks aren't an ideal solution as the bodies literally suck them in!
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:35 pm |
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Also, unless that airbox around the trumpets isnt air tight, its going to be sucking a lot of the air coming of the radiator.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:35 pm |
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So as Edward has the Longmans box, he wouldnt need the other one? Buuut he has, this is where im getting lost!
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:38 pm |
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Because it looks OEM and is effectively a cold air feed. I think it's designed to be used like this
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:02 pm |
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| The piping into the bottom of the standard air filter box? It's actually very good and the fabric inside is very good at soaking up and holding any moisture that could get into the intake. |
i see... good point, do you have an after market panel filter in the standard box?
as im torn between using the standard system like you have or use a filter canister say like the BMC??
as at the moment im just using a very fine mesh that i have fabricated witch i do want to get rid of lol hence i me asking as i want to do this asap really.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:12 pm |
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What filter are you using Edward?
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:58 am |
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If you don't use the Longman airbox (or similar) you'll just suck in hot air from the engine bay. You also need to filter the air.
There's nothing wrong with the standard Peugeot airbox and it allows a filter to be used. I have a K&N panel filter in there.
A cone filter could go on the end of the Longman box but wouldn't solve the hot air issue. If my set up was good enough for Longmans then it's good enough for me.
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:59 am |
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i was thinking more on the lines of an enclosd induction say from the fog to the canister then to the trumpet box, i don't no what to do atm as its just ideas im looking into for a less restrictive intake.
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:36 am |
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Edwards solution to filtering is very good. The K&N filter has a good flow rate and the standard airbox solves the hot air issue. It looks neat and the cold air is fed into the system as Peugeot had designed. If the airbox wasnt in the way of the gearbox I would have gone this route....Good one mate 
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:58 am |
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lol. When i had a look at my cold air intake it was pointing backwards towards the wheel arch grate way to get cold air, i could use the standard box as i already have a k&n filter isn't it, but i was wondering what outher options there are?
Sorry to thread jack paul if u want to reply to help me could you do it in my thread
Rich
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:29 am |
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Spike, are you happy running no filter?
I wouldn't risk running without one.
As it's a road car I'd just stick with the standard Peugeot air filter box. It works fine. It's tidy, tough, durable and it's free!
It might be a little restrictive in terms of air flow (compared to having nothing) but I really wouldn't worry about it. It has more advantages than disadvantages. Power is great but not when it comes at the cost of ruining your engine!
I really don't like the look of using fog light holes to provide an air intake. They look a bit 'I'm desperate for 1 bhp' and the air pressure can vary as the car changes speed. That will confuse your engine nicely. They also suck in water too. and flies.
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:03 am |
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im not happy paul as ive had to wait since december for my carbon air box, and your right its free as its under my bed doing nothing atm with the k&n already in thanks lol, i think i may vent it behind the grill,
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:46 am |
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It is a little worrying if the airboxes take so long to build. I was thinking that yesterday when I had mine off the car, if I broke it what would I do?
I'd find a local aluminium or stainless steel fabricator and get them to build one. Hotels need stainless bits making so I'd approach whoever does this kitchen equipment etc.
So what are you going to do about moving the injectors into the manfiold and going back to the original fuel rail?
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