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Forums › Tuning, Modification & Legal › Project Cars › The "Sexy Beast": GTi 180 Preservation Project |
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 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:46 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 3262
Trade Rating: +18
Location: Plymouth
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Bargain mate especially for a 180 in red!!
As Sim will agree, these just a smile on your face, had mine for 4yrs and was the best car i've ever owned
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:11 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 2369
Trade Rating: +15
Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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| MattyP wrote: |
Bargain mate especially for a 180 in red!!
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Interestingly, I found a piece of paper in the car from the owner prior to the guy I bought it off, and it was previously sold at just £975.
But, it does still seem like a bit of a bargain despite the obvious work that needs doing to it.
| MattyP wrote: |
As Sim will agree, these just a smile on your face, had mine for 4yrs and was the best car i've ever owned
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I have to say that despite being to many a meet ,and show, this is the first time I'd actually been in one. There's definitely something about that engine when you give it a little acceleration.
Granted, it's no 308 GTi (which never fails to bring a smile with the sports mode activated), but still pleasing none the less.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:42 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 3262
Trade Rating: +18
Location: Plymouth
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| VorTechS wrote: |
| MattyP wrote: |
Bargain mate especially for a 180 in red!!
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Interestingly, I found a piece of paper in the car from the owner prior to the guy I bought it off, and it was previously sold at just £975.
But, it does still seem like a bit of a bargain despite the obvious work that needs doing to it.
| MattyP wrote: |
As Sim will agree, these just a smile on your face, had mine for 4yrs and was the best car i've ever owned
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I have to say that despite being to many a meet ,and show, this is the first time I'd actually been in one. There's definitely something about that engine when you give it a little acceleration.
Granted, it's no 308 GTi (which never fails to bring a smile with the sports mode activated), but still pleasing none the less. |
That is a bit strange but then a year or 2 ago they were going quite cheap but as more and more get broken for parts or written off they are becoming rarer and they are underestimated imo!
It's because they can rev quite high like these newer cars, my 207 Gti can't rev anywhere near the Gti180 and that's what makes it more enjoyable
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:43 pm |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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| VorTechS wrote: |
| At the moment I'm quite liking the fact that it's OEM. As is the bank balance for the change in insurance costs, which has literally halved. |
Hang on a minute, the premium, or the balance? 
| MattyP wrote: |
| As Sim will agree, these just a smile on your face, had mine for 4yrs and was the best car i've ever owned |
What a machine! And the ways it went of getting back to VorTechS'! Will never forget, and would do it again any time of day.
Either of the GTis is worth preserving, and the joyride is very much so! 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:16 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 2369
Trade Rating: +15
Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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| Sim wrote: |
| VorTechS wrote: |
| At the moment I'm quite liking the fact that it's OEM. As is the bank balance for the change in insurance costs, which has literally halved. |
Hang on a minute, the premium, or the balance?
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Hehe, the premium. So much cheaper to have a standard GTi than a modified 1.6. Although Adrian Flux didn't seem to think so, which is why I am no longer insured by them!
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:40 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 2369
Trade Rating: +15
Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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Time for an update!
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01. VVT Solenoid removal / cleaning / replacement
02. Engine oil flush and replacement
03. Change spark plugs (for the hell of it)
04. Check the coil pack is a Pug one
05. Look at why steering seems to have gone a bit 'stiff'
06. Check / replace fuel sender
07. Swap the 'red' and 'yellow' wires over for the stereo!
08. Replace the cheap wipers
09. Re-hang the exhaust, replacing perishing rubbers
10. Replace the 'faded' SP fuel cap
11. Check / replace discs and pads all round
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Thanks to Sim and the guys at Unity, we've been tweaking things forced mainly because I let Mrs VorTechS use the car while I took the 308 on a jaunt to London, and got back to her having broken the clutch!
So. Out of the list above, where are we at:
01. We replaced the VVT with the known working one from Sim's GTi and there was no difference whatsoever on the lumpy idling.
02. No flush, but the oil has been replaced. It came out as black as it looked!
03. Spark plugs. Removed the coil pack and started to pull them out, and my heart sank as the first one was freed and I discovered that it was the dreaded NGKs in there. One was as black as the oil where it hadn't even been fitted properly and I could almost remove it by hand! (If my fat fingers could actually grab it properly)
04. Didn't actually check this, but since the sparks were changed, there's been a drastic improvement
05. Two slowly deflating tyres caused this. No signs of a puncture either on either. I'm going to temporarily replace the alloys with the new ones from the silver one... and have a 'daily' and 'show' set of wheels.
06. Still to do
07. Still to do. Previous issues with the old stereo potentially causing a short have put this on the back burner, although the kids are going to want music when we go on holiday, so definitely something to be done over the summer when I resurrect the Kenwood Keg.
08. Embarrasingly, not done yet!
09. This is part done. The exhaust is still sitting too low, but I can't seem to find the right size hanger!
10. Easily done, although not yet done. Should be done over the next week or so, with the one from the silver bullet.
11. Done! Albeit with a typically stuck one that Sim kindly drilled out. Also, all of the discs only had a single screw in and so I've replaced them all now with aluminium hex ones which hopefully will make life easier come next service time!
But that's not all!
We had to replace the Clutch Slave Cylinder that was leaking, a rear brake hose was also leaking. The ABS failure previously reported was down to the ABS ring on the N/S front splitting. So the driveshaft was replaced and now there's a nice shiny ring! The O/S front is in a bad state too, so will need to be replaced soon. And also, one of the front bearings had gone and needed replacing.
Slowly she's gone from something that sounds tappety and feeling under-powered, into the RAWRing machine that she should be!
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 pm |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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The pleasure is all ours, not many 180s are left out there, even more so in red. Great to see one kept on road, alive, and kicking!
03. The loose spark plug most probably gains its darkness from the exhaust fumes backfiring through it.
07. So the fuse has never blown since you've unhooked the radio?
09. Keep reminding me to take a photo of the Scorpion setup on mines
pRRAWR!
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Posts: 4266
Trade Rating: +4
Location: Palestine
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Well I'm glad to see that this project is going nicely,and the car tuning is almost there,it's a nice car,and deserves the full service so that it stay alive for more years to come,keep it going my friend
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:24 pm |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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With VorTechS kindly handing over the care of the car, I'm happy to join her preservation society
Unsure if that's ever happened here, when another member trods on the same project.
The car had been sheltered from the rain, yet receiving the best of British winds to keep any moisture out
All that's until my missus said it'd be cool to buy back the GTC VXR, as she'd like to drive something sportier than her 1.6 CC (hearing that from someone who two years ago was petrified at the mere idea of driving anything, makes me smile from ear to ear:) -- that and also needing to get my fix for finally driving around in a 180 again!
Well, I couldn't buy the VXR, but now I had two 180s to choose from: Blue Jay being mechanically sound but with ominous noises under the cambelt cover, or this Red one, which had its belt changed recently enough.
I'm still building up to the timing belt in an engine bay setup as tight as 180's, and would like to put that fun aside for the long and calm winter nights.
So it was time to get the Red out and give her a good lookin' over!
First bringing up to temp, cooling fan didn't come on on any of the speeds, and that's where I found the powderised power cable <- click there to see how I got the high speed back on. But that kicks in only at 110℃.
It seems the thermal resistor was also a dud, which engages the low speed circuit.
Thankfully my trusty 1.4 HDi could donate a working one:)
With the risk of cooking the engine out of the way, the Red began its 50 yard journey to the unit.
Alas soon enough as I maneuvered her into the bay, the steering became stiffer and I knew far too well the pressure sensor gave up on this one too (trying my best to keep the double entendre at bay here). Shut the engine off immediately and started mopping up the spillage.
As I am a glass-half-full type of person, could comfort in thinking that hydraulic fluid spillage will prevent the engine bay from rusting:))
Seems the new PAS pressure sensor has a replacement part number of a reworked design, no wonder why!
There was however a distinct reason why this blowout had happened: the low pressure piping must have gotten mangled somewhere in a recent past, and made the overall pressure too high in the system:
Capt Hindsight says one shouldn't steer the wheel left-right-and-centre when some dubious pipes are hanging off the car (when I only glanced at them once, didn't occur to me they might be bent, thought they were just unclipped..:))
What was an experimental way to straighten them back, was to warm the engine (and PAS fluid), then ask a mate to keep steering the wheels from full lock to another, while blowing a heat gun into the bends, and slowly working the aluminium back to where it should be. Here's the result:
Now just to clip them back in, and start a mileage counter:))
All that said and done, I'm gonna leave you with a riddle for what's to come next:
P.S. VorTechS had them Vortices replaced with Nimrods back in a day  All will be well:))
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:38 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 3262
Trade Rating: +18
Location: Plymouth
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How's the paint on this one?
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:41 pm |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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Plastic parts such as rear bumper have the dreaded lacquer peel:
Capt Marvel or Spidey colour theme?:] Anyhoo, deep paint correction will be needed:D
Those parts are being prepped for a re-lacquer (I hope not to ruin it this time:)) including the boot trim
Looks like it's been ages since I washed a light-coloured car, which'd sat for months. The difference is uncanny just after soaking in chems and a bit of pressure washer (the bottom part of the photo):
Really chuffed how she cleaned up
Can't wait for the paint do, but that's been postponed for several weeks:/
Lots of work been going on nevertheless, so watch this space.
P.S. Any takes on the riddle from the previous post?
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:01 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 3262
Trade Rating: +18
Location: Plymouth
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Yeah it's the same with mine but also the roof is showing a lot of lacquer peel, I got a front bumper in better condition to go on but trying to find other parts in the same colour is like trying to win the lotto
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:59 am |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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Indeed, VorTechS managed to source a set of KKN bumpers from I think MrWhite, I now swapped the front one over too, looking much better than the rears.
I decided to spray the rear bumper in situ, because taking it off may lead to snapped bolts under the arches (they both look like jagged ends of icecream waffle cones, split one in half already on the CC...)
And since both rear bumpers I've got here are looking sorry for their clearcoat, I'd rather not touch the k-rusty bolts just yet (because they are not removable from the main chassis...)
If my crazy plans for the makeshift spray booth succeed (and the paint-do holds water), you're very welcome to drive up and get e.g. the roof sprayed at our unit here in the West Country:) Got a litre of Rouge Aden too that I won't use all of it up I bet.
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:02 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3935
Trade Rating: +84
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Nice write up! I'm looking to do the same. Just something about 180's.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:12 pm |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1171
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country
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Cheers Iain! Indeed there's something about Mary ... er ... EW10J4S, especially when it comes in small packages (our Pugs:) Looking forward to your write up.
Happened to visit Ryan's Aladdin's cave in Norfolk to snap up a rear axle.
Out with the old, in with the old!.. Plans are to refurb one properly in the near future, as this one might be on its last legs (or arms) too
This marks my 4th swap across three 206s (if you're that bothered, read all about it here, here, and here:).
This time I've learned from the past mistakes, and managed to not bend any brake lines as I maneuvered the still-umbilicated calipers and handbrake cables around the arms of the replacement axle:)
'twas a good time to adjust the exhaust (since it had to be removed anyway), and tick one off VorTechS' checklist (#09 actually, the hangers were of the right size, it's then the clamped joint that sets the orientation)
This very old clamp fell apart while giving a stab at undoing it (expected):
And here comes another hint to the riddle puzzle at the end of the earlier post, this is with the replacement rear axle;)
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