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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:21 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 119
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Location: Newport
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For the last two days my indicators have been very erratic (They did seem a bit better on the way home from work tonight). When indicating either left or right and then returning the stalk to the central position they carry on indicating. I have to gently touch the stalk to stop the flashing & somtimes the other indicator will start flashing on doing this or even both as if my hazards are on.
A couple of times yesterday they even started flashing on their own & I had to pull over & spend a minute touching the stalk to stop them from flashing.
Some one in work mentioned removing the "Shunt" fuse for a minute as this is for the BSI & it could reset it, it was also suggested that maybe i should reboot the BSI.
Could some one also advise if these are safe to do. My car is pre plexed so do I have relays easily accessable to replace the possible faulty indicator one.
Thanks for the advice in advance any suggestions are welcomed.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:26 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 13077
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Location: England
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needs a new stalk or com2000
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:28 pm |
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:32 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 119
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Location: Newport
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Lee wrote: |
needs a new stalk or com2000 |
Cheers Lee, is the stalk a better (cheaper) option to go for first or is there a way I could possibly find out which one is playing up?
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:39 pm |
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Joined: Apr 15, 2010 Posts: 514
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Location: Eastbourne
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stalk or relay.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:42 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 13077
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Location: England
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Username wrote: |
Lee wrote: |
needs a new stalk or com2000 |
Cheers Lee, is the stalk a better (cheaper) option to go for first or is there a way I could possibly find out which one is playing up? |
It needs a new stalk if its non-plexed
or a new com if its plexed
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:46 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 119
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Location: Newport
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Thanks Lee, I will get a new stalk. Cheers for the help / advice mate, it's very much appreciated.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:14 pm |
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Joined: Feb 21, 2010 Posts: 3945
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Location: basingstoke
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this happend to mine when i got a cliffors alarm fitted, turns out that they didnt push the plug back in properly for the indicater stalk, so i would check this before you do anything
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:07 pm |
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Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 68
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Location: SUNDERLAND
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I had this probably before. I took off indicator stalk and cleaned points with electrical cleaner been o.k ever since, might be worth a try before you buy a new one.
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:26 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 119
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Location: Newport
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I found this how to on the net & tried this first before replacing the stalk. Touch wood for 2 days now its been ok. I did not have metal shavings in-between my connections but cleaned it out any way. On re-fitting I noticed that the shifting of the stalk is a lot firmer & not as loose as before.
Stage 1 - Remove the plastic casing for the steering column. For this you need a T20 Torx screwdriver (That's a star shapped one, don't try normal screwdrivers as you'll damage the fixings - and one in a multi-tool will be too short and fat) .
Halfords had sold out of the normal ones but do a set of Allan key style versions for a tenner so that's that I used. Undoing the screws releases the top part of the casing and allows it to be pulled away. The bottom part can then be unclipped. Haynes tells you to remove the volume control stalk but I left it plugged in in the foot well. Just be careful not to catch it with your feet.
Stage 2 - Unplug the connectors. Each has a black clip (arrowed) which pushes in. The plugs then slide off easily but be careful not to tug the wires too much.
I didn't bother disconnecting the battery to do this job but suspect that it would be a sensible move. When you re-connect it beware that some electronic things may need looking at - not sure if the stereo holds it code without power for instance.
Stage 3 - A T10 Torx screwdriver is needed to undo these screws. The switch then slides out sideways. It took a bit of a wiggle to get it past the fascia panel. Unlock the steering column adjustment as this helps a bit.
At this point you could just replace the switch if you can find one. If that's the plan just plug the new one and reassemble the casing.
Stage 4 - I'm too stingy to buy a new part if I can fix the old one. Hence the switch was taken to the modelling board and the top removed by pushing the plastic tabs using a small screwdriver. A bit of care here as this is plastic.
Cleanliness is important here too, don't work in an area full of detritus as we don't want anything untoward getting in the switch. Watch the springs under the lid too - they shouldn't come off but it's wise to keep an eye on them.
Stage 5 - Here is the culprit. Metal shavings. When you move the stalk, a steel contact slides in the metal grove you can see here. After many years and a lot of indicating, it wears and deposits filings in the contacts. These sit at the bottom of the track and sometimes make the circuit causing the indicators to flash. When I wiggled the stalk this was moving them enough to stop the problem - but it was only going to get worse.
Blowing them away and brushing out the grove fixed things. I also took a moment to smooth off the contact (not shown in the photo) with some emery paper as well and hope this will stop the wear for a while.
Blowing them away and brushing out the grove fixed things. I also took a moment to smooth off the contact (not shown in the photo) with some emery paper as well and hope this will stop the wear for a while.
Reassembly is the reverse of the above. When putting the top on the switch, make sure the spikey thing at the end of the stalk engages with the silvery grooved thing otherwise when you turn the light switch it won't turn them on. If you don't fiddle though, this will already be in the right position.
Do test the unit before putting it in the back of the car - any stiffness in movement probably means something's not gone back right. Incidentally, the stalk sticking out the opposite side of the switch to the operating stalk is part of the self-cancelling mechanism and should go in and out as you work the switch.
I carried out this work a week ago and haven't had any problems with the indicators since. This work is (IMGHO) well within the capability of any DIY'er and for an hours effort can save you quite a lot of cash. Good Luck and happy flashing !
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:45 am |
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Joined: Feb 21, 2010 Posts: 65
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Location: bournemouth
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i keep having this problem its even gone to the fact that the indicators will flash without ignition on or even inside or near the car! had a auto electrician have a look and cant find any problems he has recommended going to peugeot and having the multi function control module change which will cost atleast £350 to £400 i have also found that my alarm has also been going spastic for no reason.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:32 pm |
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Joined: Aug 13, 2011 Posts: 68
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Location: Wakefield
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i have just given this a go because although my problem was not an erratic indicater my problem was i had to hold the indicater on at times because it will not lock on. Off out now to test will update in 30 mins or so - fingers crossed ;0)
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:57 pm |
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Joined: Aug 13, 2011 Posts: 68
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Location: Wakefield
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well it fixed the problem but at the same time created a different one
Now the problem is not cancelling on either left turn or right turn, dam it not sure what ive done but i will need to sort this if anyone has any ideas as to why its not cancelling thanks
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:19 am |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Posts: 111
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Location: farlington, portsmouth
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iv just started to have the same problem, its getting right up my nose, it even happens when i pull up on the window switch and lightly bang the streering wheel. im going to give these suggestions a go tomorrow and hopefully i will be able to sort it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:16 am |
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Joined: Aug 07, 2011 Posts: 17
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Location: Sheffield
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My daughter had this problem, took the indicator stalk off but didn't take it completely apart. i just sprayed WD40 into the small springs. i could see the difference straight away. (cancel switch returning to center and not feeling as loose as it was). Refitted it and she had no problems since.
i would definitely go for the quick fix before the replacing option. Save the money and spend it on some other goodies.
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