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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 am |
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My dipped bulbs are working fine, so are the main bulbs. However, when I switch to the main beam, both dipped beams go off.
I've checked connections and changed fuses for both sides and still the same problem.
Can anyone suggest what the problem is and how I can fix it?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:56 am |
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Year of 206?
What type of headlights are fitted?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:02 am |
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2001, 1.9d. I have crystals fitted, so twin h7s./
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 am |
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| SteDuval1985 wrote: |
| 2001, 1.9d. I have crystals fitted, so twin h7s./ |
Did it leave the factory with crystals or have they been retrofitted?
Does the car have the correct headlamp stalk fitted as this needs to be changed as well when retrofitting crystals on a non plexed 206 like this?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am |
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I fitted them 4 years ago, and have a H4-H7 adaptor fitted (adaptor came with the relay). I never changed the stalk. The lights worked fine and so did the stalk from the point I changed them and it's only now that I've encountered the problem of the dipped beam going off when the mains are switched on.
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Last edited by SteDuval1985 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:40 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am |
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if you have just fitted crystals they need a relay fitted also because frosted headlights are ment to do this  basically lol
edit: sounds like the relay in the adapters gone wrong
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:39 am |
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I should also add that the passenger side main beam bulb blew last week, hence how I came to changing the bulbs and noticing this problem.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:41 am |
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maybe it was like this since 4 years ago? does the wiring adapter for the crystals have a relay wired into them (black cube) lol
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:43 am |
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No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:45 am |
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lee and NorthantsBen are very knowledgable about headlight wiring adapters etc, hopefully one will input soon. if it was me though i would test that relay first because its the relays job to power the dipped lights when the main are activated.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:04 pm |
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Do you have the relay connected to the batt or another 12v source?
Or supply a pic of the wires if unsure?
It's not uncommon for relay to fail.
Edit...
A wire diagram for this should look similar to this.....
206info.co.uk/Forums/v...18992.html
The adaptors may have a fuse fitted that may have blown.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:37 pm |
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Replace the relay, might as well they are cheap, i had this problem a while ago in the same situation as you and the relay had failed, easy fix.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:40 pm |
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| SteDuval1985 wrote: |
| No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay. |
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:12 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| SteDuval1985 wrote: |
| No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay. |
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom. |
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no?
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:15 pm |
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| V9977 wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| SteDuval1985 wrote: |
| No I've never encountered this until now. Yes, the adaptor came with the relay. |
Get someone to operate the headlamps & listen for the relay clicking
You can unplug the relay & then short the 2 connections with a suitable bit of wire as a quick test OR swop the relay for a known working one.
You can on non plexed 206's change the 2 headlamp plugs & swop the headlamp switch instead of fitting the adaptor loom. |
You are assuming the person doing the test is absolutely flawless at shorting the correct points in the rellay socket.
This is not recomended incase the coil contacts are shorted inadvertedly which could lead to problems.
Changing the rellay is the prefered test in this situation no? |
The only problem it would cause is a blown fuse.
You would also have to be pretty clueless to short the wrong terminals out on the relay connector.
Also if the relay isnt at fault your gonna be out of pocket unless you happen to have spare relays laying around or know where to look on the car to borrow one from.
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