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 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:28 am |
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Joined: Nov 11, 2010
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Location: UK, Isle of Man
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I have the scartin the fuse box area under steering etc yeah. Needs to have the 7th pin or something does it?
Lee- I take it the software for that is only with the top end kits like yours? Soooooooo wish I lived near you. Don't suppose your a bike fanatic and your over here for TT are you 
Lol
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:45 am |
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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| Didz wrote: |
I have the scartin the fuse box area under steering etc yeah. Needs to have the 7th pin or something does it?
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Found this in my online manual.
But my car has the 16-pin OBD connector, shouldn't it be OBD-II compliant?
No, not necessarily. A lot of European and Asian manufacturers equipped their vehicles with D-shaped 16-pin connectors long before they began installing OBD-II systems on those vehicles.
I've sent you full subject by FB mail as it is 5 pages long. Tells you how to identify protocol and identify if you are EOBD compliant.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:47 am |
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thanks macca.
ok according to maccas info mine isnt OBD II as im missing pins 2 & 10. correct?
mine VV
but i did see a listing (although it was ebay) stating i only need pin 7 to identify use for that tool.
Any help?
Lee if not OBD II is there something else i can use? (even if just for P codes)
thanks for this lads, i appreciate your time.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:09 am |
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Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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May as well ask my question in this thread to save starting another (sorry OP)
What reader do I need for a 1998 (S reg) 1.1 206?
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:39 am |
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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Just found this on another forum
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Originally Posted by $$$$ View Post
Thanks for replying...
I thought that my car wasn't ODBII compliant?
i believe from 96 or 98, all cars are OBDII compliant as a standard...its the protocol to communicate that differs in cars.
Now it's all getting complicated, some say 2001 others 1996. From what I have read elsewhere, the Lexia 3 will do it, but they start at about £100.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:59 am |
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oooh £100. would need to be 100% sure to splash that tbh.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:11 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: England
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Right lets set things straight. OBDII is American same with OBDI. It was a law for American car's from 1996.
EOBD is the European equivalent and it was a law from 2001 for Petrols and 2004 for Diesels.
A lot of manufactures introduced it at a earlier stage than the legal requirement to enable them to mass produce cars.
In general european cars use the ISO and KWP protocol pins 4, 5, 7, 15 and 16.
Scanners that will read ABS and other things are more expensive than the cheap ones that read P-Codes. Depends how much you want to spend, Sealey sell some neat tools
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:39 pm |
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Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Location: aldershot
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er how come ive only got 6 pins in mine?
its a 2L hdi 03 plate
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:55 pm |
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Looks like its either ISO 9141-2 or KWP2000 (ISO 14230) protocol.
Pin 4 = Chassis ground
Pin 5 = Signal ground
Pin 7 = ISO 9141-2 K Line and ISO/DIS 14230-4
Pin 16 = +12 volts
What you gonna use to scan it?
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:00 pm |
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that's OBD I interface
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:06 pm |
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ive no idea mrbsi?
is that bad seabook?
so what CHEAP scanner can i use to read this car?
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:13 pm |
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| stevedude wrote: |
ive no idea mrbsi?
is that bad seabook?
so what CHEAP scanner can i use to read this car? |
Being a 2003 car technically it might not be compatible with a cheap scanner.
I have read & cleared engine fault codes on a W reg 306 2.0 HDI with my cheap RAC branded scanner.
Know anybody that has a cheap scanner you could try before buying one?
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:16 pm |
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a**e, sadly i dont know anyone who would have a scanner
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:41 pm |
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Diesels are a real pain when it comes to diagnostic kits and pre-2004 are a nightmare.
In the end I bought a Sealey VS863 unit which cost me over £200!!! Luckily it works with a lot of other cars so it's going to pay back in time. Our 1.4 HDi is 2002 with the Multiplex electronics and didn't work with anything. Even a local "peugoet/citroen specialist" had problems getting the reasons for an airbag light (and don't even get me started on how much the patr was to fix that!!). This Sealey was sold as compatible .. which it is. Also works with the Renault Clio 1.5dCi and should work with the 2001 206CC 2.0 my daughter has just bought.
When you consider that taking it to a dealer probably costs £80-90 each time for them to give you all sorts of bu11s*** about what's wrong, then that £200 was well spent. Three goes and it's paid for itself .. but it hurt buying it!
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:46 pm |
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i cant pay that dont have it lol
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