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Gti 138 missing
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Kelz
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:05 am Up
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My gti was miss firing so I changed the coil pack and it's been fine for 2 weeks but now started to miss again

Plugs don't look dodgy they seem fine it's got ngk-r plugs in it but if I accelerate gently it slowly builds up speed without misfiring but if I rev the car it splutters?

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Get a set of Bosch super 4's

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170...1423.l2649

206's dont like ngk plugs

 

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Kelz wrote:

Plugs don't look dodgy they seem fine it's got ngk-r plugs in it

206 + NGK spark plugs = MISFIRE Wink

Its been covered so many times on here in the past.

Bosch plugs are what you need to fit.

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Went got some new plugs super 4's fitted them and still has a slight miss

Only in the low rev range it,splutters then clears and you can put your foot down

Any other ideas guys?

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Also if it helps, it runs fine on idle and doesn't miss

Went about 2miles at 50mph and didn't miss a beat was smooth as anything but if I stop and pull away it splutters and then clears at like after 2k rpm, just seems to be when it's under pressure

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Maybe take a look at this link mate

www.206info.co.uk/Foru.../t=72.html

When was your fuel filter last done? Maybe that...

Try and have a search on here as no doubt someone else as had slimilar problems

 

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Martind wrote:
Maybe take a look at this link mate

www.206info.co.uk/Foru.../t=72.html

When was your fuel filter last done? Maybe that...

Try and have a search on here as no doubt someone else as had slimilar problems

Thanks I will take a look, car did belong to other halfs relative and she had it around 2yrs and apparently she hasn't serviced it in the time she has had it

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Edward
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Try cleaning the map sensor.
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I'd check everything fuel related tbh with you. If you have access to diag equipment, look at the fuel parameters in the engine ecu, and when the spluttering occurs, check what pressure its at, and compare it to under load, and idle. You should see a drop in pressure and then a pick up again.

This could indicate a number of things, the fuel filter could be partially blocked/clogged, the fuel rail may not be holding its pressure correctly, or more often than not, it could be the fuel pump on its way out.

NOTE- this is only a suggestion to check, not an actual diagnosis.

 
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Pumps failing on 206's is virtually unheard of though.
2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Will look at map sensor shortly and check other sensors

Hopefully isn't anything expensive Sad

Will get back to you all shortly

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Ok so far I tried changing the map sensor and it's still the same, I had a spare lying around

It idle fine and doesn't misfire at all and if you build the revs slowly it doesn't misfire it's only if you put your foot down a little and want a bit more power it spits like a misfire

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It could just be a weak coil pack...
2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Kelz
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It's been fine for 2 weeks, do you think it could be fuel filter?
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Kelz
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:17 am Up
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Now has new fuel filter and is still the same
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