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 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:45 am |
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right so ive tried to lower the rear end of my car 2wice now with no joy and its really p**sing me off!!
ive done all the step by step guides! car up,wheels off, mesured,taken bolts n washers out, soaked in wd40 applyed slight heat on the bars! used a slide hammer and knocking from the other side! but the bars simply wont come out! ive had one bar come out of one end bt the trailing arm kept coming with it! and the other wont budge! anyone got any HELPFUL advice for me?
help would be very much appriciated!
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:00 am |
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More heat, bigger hammer!
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:05 am |
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Just told my dad about this as he used to work for Peugeot, he said he used to use a Porto pump to do the torsion bars sometimes.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:06 am |
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Or what ukskater01 said more heat and a bigger hammer
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:08 am |
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problem im havin is the trailing arm keeps comeing with the bars
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:03 am |
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| nathdavies91 wrote: |
| problem im havin is the trailing arm keeps comeing with the bars |
hit them other way, thats what i do. trailing arms wont come off then.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:02 pm |
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right i had the same problem as you and nearly gave up but this worked for me. keep knocking the bar thats pushing the trailing arm out but only knock the bar about 1inch so that it just becomes free from the trailing arm side that you are knocking from. This obviously will have pushed the trailing arm over 1inch on the other side, thats ok. Now go under the car and give the bar a few yanks up and down from the side thats free. then you want to go back and push the trailing arm thats moved 1inch back to it original position and the bar should reloate back into the trailing arm that it was knocked out from. Then staying on the side where the trailing arm moved 1inch you want to now knock the bar from that side and for me it started to move. Hope this help if you can get your head round it 
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:20 pm |
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or put the car next to a wall or strong post and wedge some wood between it and the trailing arms. Then you can hit it as hard as you want.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:42 am |
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| Rob2859 wrote: |
| or put the car next to a wall or strong post and wedge some wood between it and the trailing arms. Then you can hit it as hard as you want. |
i tried this yesterday with no luck i kept bending the thread i made up,
ill try what raj mentioned as that seams like it will help
ill report back later 
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:10 am |
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you'll squash the end if you keep wacking i had to get my bars re-tapped after i dropped it
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:45 am |
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I use a sledge hammer than almost knocks the car off the axle stands
Some take PROPER force to get off
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:02 am |
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| 138Andy wrote: |
| you'll squash the end if you keep wacking i had to get my bars re-tapped after i dropped it |
what i did to stop this happening, was to loosely screw back in the bolt once the washer was out and place a socket over the bolt that was a few mm bigger and hit the socket. The bolt would keep the socket central but the impact would be to the bar.
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Last edited by -RAJ- on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:03 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:02 am |
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Try some releasing oil instead of WD40.
Alternatively take the axle off the car and stand it vertically. This allows the penetrating oil to sit in the end of the arm/axle and will soak into the tiny spaces around the torsion bar splines.
Dont forget to put the torsion bar bolts back in the torsion bar just hand tight (minus the washer) when hitting the bars out. Otherwise there is a strong change of damaging the bar ends and thread. You can hit the bolts as hard as you like. Then order some new bolts from the dealer.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:20 pm |
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i managed to get the top bar out with some wiggling then it came out easy, the lower one is proving difficult as thre is little room with the exhast there so i might take that off and try to wiggle more, think last resort would be to have the bar heated to break the rust, would the car be ok to drive with 1 std one and one at 22mm, sure for sort distance the garage it would be fine, any other helpful tips??
i have wedged the arm with a bar to stop it moving
im trying not to remove the axel as i dont want tobrake any of the brake lines like i have in the past with rusty seized hoses,
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:12 pm |
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just take it to a place who can do it for you, saves you all the hard work 
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