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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:19 pm |
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Im in traffic now have been in the last hour.. Just now the gearstick would not go into any gear there was very little travel on the clutch and with the clutch all the way down it was still engaged. I now turned the engine off and on for few mins and it went back to normal!
As i move it gets better as i idle or crawl for a while clutch loses travel and gearstick wont shift properly?
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:54 pm |
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Sounds like clutch internals starting to fail or thrust bearing sticking. No quick solution to that except new clutch.
If you are lucky it could be the auto adjuster on the clutch cable beginning to stick and fail.
Try putting the clutch on the floor and then slide your foot off the pedal so that the pedal shoots back towards you. You may have to do it a few times but it can be enough to free the sticking adjuster.
One warning - if it is near end of life doing this could be the final strain that causes it to completely fail! You choose what to do; you are the one in traffic - sorry if that last statement isn't helpful but you need to be warned.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:01 pm |
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I am home now it only done this once on the motorway where it lost perhaps half the clutch travel.. other times difficult to shift but now it is fine. Makes me know it will come back again surely. I was thinking something to do with the fluid? It is a new clutch by LUKS, amazing that a new battery had to be replaced but surely not a new clutch as well which is still under warranty. There is no clutch judder and no known defects.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:15 pm |
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karimali831: if the clutch has been replaced register the sticking as a complaint with whoever did the work. That way, if it gets worse or continues, there is a record of the fault and when it started. 6 months time and they may not want to know.
I thought that all 206 were cable but I may be wrong.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:20 pm |
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| kandlbarrett wrote: |
I thought that all 206 were cable but I may be wrong. |
There are some hydraulic ones out there. Couldn't say which models they are on though
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:49 pm |
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Diesel only I thought. Probably still wrong though.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:51 pm |
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I'm sure gtis have hydronic clutches
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:53 pm |
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Hdi, Gti and 180 all use the same gearbox, which is hydraulic. It could be low on fluid, so check the brake fluid level (its the same reservoir).
Check the slave cylinder for leaks on the front of the gearbox. Sounds more than likely clutch or gearbox fault though.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:58 pm |
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Oh same reservoir, as I've had the brake fluid changed just recently.. 
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:18 pm |
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I was going to say... Was the slave cylinder replaced along with the clutch? If not, thats probably your problem, or somehow you've ended up with air in the slave cylinder. Similar to brakes, if they get air in they go spongy and only clutch resistance lower down the pedal.
LUK clutches are okay, though i prefer Valeo.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:33 pm |
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Air lock in fluid reservoir? Very, very rare but can happen. Though symptoms suggest internal clutch problem to me.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:39 pm |
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I don't think so, I provided with the clutch kit and they fitted, that was it. The fact that it happens only in slow moving traffic surely got to be something to that? If I was to drive it now, the clutch and gearbox will fine.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:15 pm |
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If it was to go on the motorway you know how to drive it dont you?????i had a mazda 323 that i drove without a clutch for several weeks and it had no windscreen wipers for a month or so....not at the same time i must add...however it was snowing at dusk a few times......bloody lucky above anything else.....
As for drivin with no clutch u have to turn it off to stop and start up again in gear to set off,which u do as soon as the starter starts...second is best...then when a gear change is vital if u get the revs right it is quite easy to slide out of second rev a blip then into third or better still into fourth.....changing down is more difficult and unneccessary really because u cant coast and slow anyway.......the only way to slow then stop is stay in fourth and brake,brake,brake then if u have to stop u stall it with a heavy foot on the brake....then to start away again u just put it in second and crank her over as before......this all getys a lot more interesting in traffic....especialy if there's anyone around that you might like to not spot you and u must blend in????????where there's a will there's a way.......
As for the wiperless blizzard its not to be tried really...but it can be done..even with roadworks,snow,no wipers at all,night time................no bull except what was in my passengers pants....just a lot of guess work...tail lite following,,,occasional hand out the window and scrape,,,,and some prayers........still managed it though............great little car that 323...bomb proof and better...
OF COURSE ALL THIS HAPPENED ON A TRACK...x
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:33 pm |
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| bezford wrote: |
If it was to go on the motorway you know how to drive it dont you?????i had a mazda 323 that i drove without a clutch for several weeks and it had no windscreen wipers for a month or so....not at the same time i must add...however it was snowing at dusk a few times......bloody lucky above anything else.....
As for drivin with no clutch u have to turn it off to stop and start up again in gear to set off,which u do as soon as the starter starts...second is best...then when a gear change is vital if u get the revs right it is quite easy to slide out of second rev a blip then into third or better still into fourth.....changing down is more difficult and unneccessary really because u cant coast and slow anyway.......the only way to slow then stop is stay in fourth and brake,brake,brake then if u have to stop u stall it with a heavy foot on the brake....then to start away again u just put it in second and crank her over as before......this all getys a lot more interesting in traffic....especialy if there's anyone around that you might like to not spot you and u must blend in????????where there's a will there's a way.......
As for the wiperless blizzard its not to be tried really...but it can be done..even with roadworks,snow,no wipers at all,night time................no bull except what was in my passengers pants....just a lot of guess work...tail lite following,,,occasional hand out the window and scrape,,,,and some prayers........still managed it though............great little car that 323...bomb proof and better...
OF COURSE ALL THIS HAPPENED ON A TRACK...x |
Anyone else thinking c***??
And please don't mention a track in your bulls**t. Thanks
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:42 pm |
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Haha mattie, life story or what
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