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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:52 pm |
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Went out in my 180 the other day got 200m down the road the engine just cut out. Went to start it again and it was a lumpy idle and judders a lot as it ticks over. So had it towed back to my house by a mate. Checked to see if my air intake was blocked but was fine, checked oil etc. but no change.
Had the AA come out today he hooked up the diagnostics and came up with 2 camshaft faults asked me to start up the car. And he said he thinks the cambelt has slipped so the timing is all out. But when he went to show me the fault codes they had gone! He recommended me to change my cambelt as I've done 65000 and no cambelt change.
I'm taking it down to the garage tomorrow to see what they can do, but want to be sure it's the cambelt before I get it changed. Anyone had these problems?
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:55 pm |
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He told you to start it when he thought the cambelt had slipped 
It may be the camshaft sensor that has gone worse case is it has slipped hopefully not taking any valves with it
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:02 pm |
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Yer he was not keen on running it for long. And I've had it running for 5 mins or so before I knew what it was.
Can the sensors just go while your driving along. Cause I had no warnings what so ever when it cut out? And don't think any valves have gone well I hope not.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:04 pm |
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Which garage are you taking it to, just out of interest?
There are few garages I trust in Kiddy, let alone one who knows about 180's!
Cambelt change (+ water pump) needs to be done every 5 years, regardless of mileage 
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:07 pm |
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Lets just hope you haven't done more damage after turning it over!
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:15 pm |
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The 180 has the cam sensor in the inlet cam doesn't it? The 138 camshaft sensor is on the exhaust cam. The 138 will run fine without it plugged in but on the 180 with the VVT it likes to know the position of the inlet cam.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:15 pm |
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I don't know yet I usually take it to a mate who owns his own garage but he's not free and I need it fixing ASAP. I been to offmore before and cooper and chinns. I don't know anywhere that knows what a 180 is. Where you recommend?
Well it might have been changed but can't find anything in the service history saying it has.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:18 pm |
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| lukesaunders91 wrote: |
| Lets just hope you haven't done more damage after turning it over! |
Yer I hope I'm abit of a noob when it comes mechanics!!!
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:23 pm |
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| t10101 wrote: |
I don't know yet I usually take it to a mate who owns his own garage but he's not free and I need it fixing ASAP. I been to offmore before and cooper and chinns. I don't know anywhere that knows what a 180 is. Where you recommend?
Well it might have been changed but can't find anything in the service history saying it has. |
Cooper & Chinns are good, as are Woodhouse Bros. on Oldington (they have built their own racing cars there).
A cambelt change on a 180 isn't an easy job, it'll take about 4hrs or more.
If you can afford to buy the bits yourself (Gates cambelt, plus the correct water pump) then I recommend Lloyds garage down Sandy Lane, Stourport. They're good value and usually have the parts in stock.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:37 pm |
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| Barking wrote: |
Cooper & Chinns are good, as are Woodhouse Bros. on Oldington (they have built their own racing cars there).
A cambelt change on a 180 isn't an easy job, it'll take about 4hrs or more.
If you can afford to buy the bits yourself (Gates cambelt, plus the correct water pump) then I recommend Lloyds garage down Sandy Lane, Stourport. They're good value and usually have the parts in stock. |
Money is not really a problem it's just time. I'm just not convinced by the aa's diagnostics as the faults went after start up and he did not clear them. So seemed strange to me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:11 am |
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Managed to take it down to my girlfriends mates garage said he was going to strip it down and see if the cambelt has slipped a few teeth. Think I'm lucky none of the valves have gone.
My mates brother who had a gti 180 had a similar fault with camshaft faults on diagnostics said it was his lifters that dropped which cost 2 grand to fix so I'm hoping its just the cambelt.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:14 am |
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Its been stripped down and timing was all over the place. Its been timed back up and its got low compression in cylinder 3?? so its most likely done damage to the engine got no idea how much it will cost. Getting the new belt on tomorrow and we will see what damage it has done.
Not a happy 206 owner at the moment!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:49 am |
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If your getting a new belt put in you may aswell take the head off to check the damage of valves, piston. No point wasting a belt if it's got to come off anyway
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:50 am |
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Hes got the low compession on 3 to sort out so heads off no matter what...i guess he meant the head was coming off again anyhow.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:31 am |
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Been down this morning the head is coming off today. Had a look at the belt no teeth missing and only a few spots on the outside slight discoloured. And it was all in time a part from camshaft gear exhaust was out by about 180 degrees. Camshaft goes round fine so no damage there. We thinking bent valves?
Also the compression test seem low on all of them 100 100 80 and 100. Should be about 170 for gti 180 right?
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