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Edward

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:36 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage

And the main reason for tuning the 138 engine is because that's what was already in the car!


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

drmo

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:33 am

Joined: Nov 07, 2010
Posts: 32
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia

Yes, of course. I didn't say that the engine is rubish, just that the 180 is a much better option to start with, and not all tuners know how to tune vvt (most think it is just an on/off thing, like with 2.2 16v). Edward, did you solve the peaky nature of the engine?


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Edward

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:44 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

It should be as good as it can get - apart from a compression increase, a N/A engine will always appear relatively gutless compared to my daily driver with 236lb ft of torque at low revs!


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

drmo

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:25 pm

Joined: Nov 07, 2010
Posts: 32
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia

With this spec cams:http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product.php?pid=GTI2BP285 I would suspect a broader torque curve and much less peaky nature of the engine. May I suggest someone to look at cam timing? I've seen this before, when cam timing was off. You still have that good looking Longman's plenum over itbs?


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Lateral_Soup

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:37 pm

Joined: Nov 03, 2015
Posts: 11
Trade Rating: 0

Edward wrote:

But mine has a Longman head which will be better than the 180 head. For the road there is no point in fitting longer duration cams than I have fitted. The only advantage that the 180 would offer me is the higher compression and stronger bottom end.
The 180 does have bigger valves but with that comes VVT which makes life more difficult with choosing cams and to take full advantage you need a more expensive ECU which has variable cam timing control rather than the 'on/off ' control that the Omex 600 has.

ok well yea that makes sense, I'm pretty good with cars but I'm quite new to the newer peugot engines. Cheers for the advice guys, looks like I've got a fair bit of reading to get through lol Cool

Lateral_Soup

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:38 pm

Joined: Nov 03, 2015
Posts: 11
Trade Rating: 0

Edward wrote:

ok well yea that makes sense, I'm pretty good with cars but I'm quite new to the newer peugot engines. Cheers for the advice guys, looks like I've got a fair bit of reading to get through lol Cool

Edward

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:50 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Ooh a bit more spending....this can only mean one thing!


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

LeeThr

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Joined: Feb 24, 2010
Posts: 2596
Trade Rating: +17
Location: North West Wales

New rubber? That mean it might get a bit further than the end of you drive sometime soon?

gogs_macaulay wrote:

LeeThr wrote:

One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's

Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

The garage
2003 - 206 GTi 138 - Moonstone Blue
2003 - 406 Coupé 2.2 HDi SE - Hyperion Blue
2000 - 206 2L HDi D-Turbo ECO - Cherry Red
1999 - 306 GTi-6 - Blue (haven't worked out if it's Nile or China yet)
1987 - 205 GTi 1.9 - Graphite Gray

I must be mad.....

Edward

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:43 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Yep. Didn't want to fit new tyres if the car wasn't going to be used as they just age....so now that the weather is looking better I'm going to get it used.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

LeeThr

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:39 pm

Joined: Feb 24, 2010
Posts: 2596
Trade Rating: +17
Location: North West Wales

I think I need to go sit down.... When was the last time it was on the road?

gogs_macaulay wrote:

LeeThr wrote:

One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's

Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

Edward

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:35 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

I think it was September 2012!


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Edward

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:15 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

£14 spent the other day. I noticed ages ago that one wheel was slightly difficult to turn by hard. The caliper was sticking slightly but the sliders were free to move when the caliper was removed. As soon as the slider bolts were tight it stuck again.
So I ordered some new sliders from Brakes International for £14. Problem fixed!

The old sliders did have some polished marks on them so that could suggest they weren't 100% straight. Who knows.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

macj

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:09 am

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex

and the new ones are prettier

Edward

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:53 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Yes they are nice and shiny ! Might try and get it MOT'd this week.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

macj

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:12 pm

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex

I think we can expect a nice shiny clean pass there as well

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