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 Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: In the garage
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Even at idle if you know what a big motorbike is like at idle it's like that. Multiply that for when the thing is running...
I've no idea what it sounds like from the outside!
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:23 pm |
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I think I have a good idea! It's just a real shame that you're not happy about it I think.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:31 pm |
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I'll make a video one day...
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:41 pm |
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Joined: Feb 13, 2010
Posts: 451
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Location: Stafford
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i cant belive you thinking bout selling it now after just spending that amount money one it.
to me they seemed to really made you lose all interest in your 206.
i just got my 180 running perfect now it idles at 750 with 4901804 cat camshafts with no lumpy idle and from 1000 to 3500 drive just like standed gti180 but from 4500 to back 7000 revs pulls like a bit-ch and was running 195.5bhp on dyno and since fitted vernier pulley last week and slightly retarded the timing most be over 200bhp as it pulls really well now, but it feel very nice car to drive and this should be what yours should drive like.
so take it back and get it sorted or take to rs tuning you wont regreat it am telling you.
kyle
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| 206 Gti 180 Cat-camshafts 804's, Cat cams CTPE 002 exhaust vernier pully, RS tuning remap, Cat back janspeed exhaust, K@N Typhoon induction kit- heat wrapped, Exhaust manifold heat wrapped, Goodridge brake flexi's poly bushs in rear lateral arms, blue led speedo convertion, 50mm Eibach sport line springs, ......
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:22 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: West mids
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whats your torque out put kyle?
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:02 pm |
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Location: Stafford
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@ rs tuning on th 6-5-2009 it made 185.1 bhp @ flywheel and 160ldft but wasnt running right and would not idle.
on 2-3-2010 @ hi-tech motorsport it made 195.5bhp @ flywheel and 167.3ldft and was running fine due to me playing with it for mouths. alot hours spent on it due to these bloody cat cams 
i have just fitted a vernier pulleys and @ mo its has been retarded bout 4 deg's and now it pulls alot better so soon back to hi-tech in couple weeks.
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| 206 Gti 180 Cat-camshafts 804's, Cat cams CTPE 002 exhaust vernier pully, RS tuning remap, Cat back janspeed exhaust, K@N Typhoon induction kit- heat wrapped, Exhaust manifold heat wrapped, Goodridge brake flexi's poly bushs in rear lateral arms, blue led speedo convertion, 50mm Eibach sport line springs, ......
180 Doctor
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:05 pm |
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Location: Stafford
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arww and hi-tech motorsport use's same dyno type as red-dot and ecosse
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| 206 Gti 180 Cat-camshafts 804's, Cat cams CTPE 002 exhaust vernier pully, RS tuning remap, Cat back janspeed exhaust, K@N Typhoon induction kit- heat wrapped, Exhaust manifold heat wrapped, Goodridge brake flexi's poly bushs in rear lateral arms, blue led speedo convertion, 50mm Eibach sport line springs, ......
180 Doctor
Hemwoods Gti180 / Pug specialist | |
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:42 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: Bristol & Leicester
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Edward, hope whatever you do your happy with. However, I personally wish that you'd go back to Ecosse (with the supporting comments/evidence from macj & others) and get them to sort it out for you. You've spent a hell of a lot of money on your car. They made you fall out of love with it within 2-3 weeks. Likewise, they could make you fall back in love with it by doing their job correctly. Or by someone else correcting what appears to be their mistakes.
Anyway, best of luck with whatever you plan to do.
Sam
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:13 pm |
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Location: Barry, South Wales
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After catching up, i agree. something needs to be done. You don't know what damage it could be doing to the car.
With regards to the rev range who would have a road car which you would have to rag around all the time?
Also with sound can't you put socks or filters on the end to quiten the sound and maybe add another silencer?
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:14 pm |
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Socks aren't the greatest design as the bodies tend to suck the ends in
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:16 pm |
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| Jamie wrote: |
| Socks aren't the greatest design as the bodies tend to suck the ends in |
I haven't got a clue when it comes to TB. I am just happy to read and try and learn. Just remember seeing them before 
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:18 pm |
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it should be alot quiter with the air box on its when you take it off and open it up it hurts your ears haha
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:29 pm |
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Location: Evesham, Worcestershire
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| Edward wrote: |
| Half the problem is the noise it makes. Pulling away from lowish speed in 2nd gear just results in slow acceleration and lots of noise from both the exhaust and engine. Then it starts to pull better with even more noise...and it's giving me a headache! |
Should have just bought a 1.1. For £4.5k you would have had change to spare as well. 
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Edward, hope whatever you do your happy with. However, I personally wish that you'd go back to Ecosse (with the supporting comments/evidence from macj & others) and get them to sort it out for you. You've spent a hell of a lot of money on your car. They made you fall out of love with it within 2-3 weeks. Likewise, they could make you fall back in love with it by doing their job correctly. Or by someone else correcting what appears to be their mistakes.
Anyway, best of luck with whatever you plan to do.
Sam |
I agree with Quarmbo 100% It just reads a bodge remap to get the car ready for you in time. Take it back to Ecosse, I would bet the running issues are related as well. Ok so it is a 400mile round trip but when the car is running properly then it will be worth it. 
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:33 pm |
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400 miles would be roughly £70 in a GTi? Maybe bit more due to the new engine setup, but it would cost you more than that in mapping at RST...
Ring up and give Ecosse an ultimatum;
Either they pay for your fuel (or pick the car up) for the car to be taken back to Ecosse, or they refund you for whatever work Paul does at RST.
That's the least they could do, and it could make you love the car again!
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:36 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
Even at idle if you know what a big motorbike is like at idle it's like that. Multiply that for when the thing is running...
I've no idea what it sounds like from the outside! |
Thats because the fuelling is too lean at idle and the butterflies are partially open to keep it running. you will get a slight deep warble when this occurs. Mine ticks over like a standard car apart from the exhaust note.
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