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Seabook
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:45 pm Up
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Edward wrote:
Any power increase is also at higher road speed which dampens the effect. i.e. the alleged 214bhp at 70mph in 2nd isn't going to work as well as if it was available at 55mph.

get a bigger crown wheel Razz

 
 

 

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Edward
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:29 pm Up
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Yep. 4.79 ratio from a 407 is about £110. But will it fit?
2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Yep. 4.79 ratio from a 407 is about £110. But will it fit?

as long as it is off from a BE4/5 gear box i can't see the reason why not?

i got mine (4.93) off a diesel van and it fit fine.

only thing is if you want to use the crown wheel off a BE3/5 gearbox you will have to use their gearset too as the spacing on the shaft is slightly different compare to BE4/5 box.

 
 

 

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Edward wrote:
Yes on 45mm bodies but there must be a limit to how long they can be to fit under the bonnet. They do 100mm carbon trumpets but they cost twice as much.
I wonder if 45mm trumpets can fit 42mm bodies...a little bit of grinder action on the entry to the throttle body...only 1.5mm each side...cant be too hard...

Or maybe get the body's taperd but it may effect the inlet angles ect I'm sure if you contact with a local engineering place they could make some for you, yer with the 25mm minimum gap between the filter and the trumpet end its not to close, I could go bigger if I got rid of the grill but then bonnet stops you going much further than 100mm ish But I'm not sure thers much more positive gain as you will start to loose quite a bit of peak bhp for more torque.

 

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What is your review of the Bilstein B8 dampers? thank you
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Well it got MOT'd and i've taken the tax off the car for the winter. So now the work can begin...

A new shorter alternator belt has been fitted and that means the belt driven PAS pump can be removed. I always intended to replace that rusty looking pulley. I've noticed any engine related bolts on these engines seem to be quite expensive and often come in minimum order quantities.

 


Also removed the front bumper and the airbox feed into the inner wing because it will never be needed again.

 

2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Sweet Paul mine bin running for quite a while now seems the best way To go 2bh. Good gains all round.
 

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Brilliant read this, car is stunning!

Love the below pic, you'd never think it was from a 2001 206! Plus its helped me understand exactly where and what the torsion bars are Laughing

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spike_202 wrote:
Sweet Paul mine bin running for quite a while now seems the best way To go 2bh. Good gains all round.

I've been reading all about experience of fitting longer inlet trumpets. Quite interesting.

www.emeraldm3d.com/art...th-intake/

I've also come up with a plan for my radiator. I'm going to cut all the lower part of the radiator fan housing off, just leaving the top 4 inches where it bolts to the car and where the bonnet catch is.
The new radiator can then sit in the mounts that the bottom of the fan housing used to sit in on the cross member. The radiator can stretch right across to the horn and up to the remains of the fan housing. I'll get a fan fitted to the front of the new radiator.

2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Cool, I got a fan fitted to the back of mine as it gives a cleaner look and there is plenty of room in the bay once you move it all forward.
 

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£139.20 for 4 x 42mm x 90mm air horns on order today....would have prefered the 42mm x 100mm carbon air horns but at twice the price it's hard to justify.
If I'm ever desperate for 10mm extra on the inlet, Jenvey sell spacers which of course aren't cheap either!

2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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Got my delivery today already! Ordered at lunchtime and it was delivered by mid afternoon the next day!

Might as well remove the fan housing and see how it all fits together. Next purchase is the ITG sausage filter and backplate.

 


 


 

2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.
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that looks so good.
im seriously thinking about getting that set up next year

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you think you can get up to 175hp with a stock gti engine with TB's depending on the size and length?
what made you choose for 42mm and not 45mm?

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Lex206 wrote:
you think you can get up to 175hp with a stock gti engine with TB's depending on the size and length?
what made you choose for 42mm and not 45mm?

you will hit at least 190-200 with good mapping.

 
 

 

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