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HELP! 1.4 HDi won't start!!!
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macca1411
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:42 am Up
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James3107 wrote:
Thank you very much that's very helpful you wouldn't happen to know why size pipe I would need as £100 seems a bit steep! Was thinking of just getting some universal rubber pipe and making my own
Less than £40 for the two pipes from the dealer.

First off buy a tin of tracing powder and spray it on all the pipes and connections and around the injectors to see if you have a leak. It may not be visible to the eye, but tracing powder will highlight it.

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AA man came out and managed to get it going, he says there looks to be a leak somewhere between the pump and the priming bulb and air is in the tank
I wouldn't worry about air being in the tank. All cars have air in the tank, it's what replaces the fuel as you use it.

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Update!!

I have found the leak it was in the pipe going from the left side of the fuel filter:
 

 

 


So i have replaced it with some 10mm fuel pipe from Andrew PAge but its a lot thicker than the original
 


It fits in the plastic clips perfectly and is airtight, however since i installed it the car is so underpowered, cant get it past 40 and it wont rev past 2000rpm,

I have had to route the pipe behind the airbox:
 


But its still straight and there is no massive bends in it.

it does say this on it but should it make much of a difference?
 

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So now there's massive power loss, and it feels like the Diesel isn't getting to the engine properly but i have taken the pipe back off checked it and the inside has had diesel coming through and there isn't any leaks behind the pipe. Any ideas?
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Can't you just take the old pipe to a garage and let them braze weld the fuel line.

I think the pipe should have been 8mm, someone will correct if i am wrong.

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Did you bleed the air out of the system when you replaced the pipe?
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macca1411 wrote:
Did you bleed the air out of the system when you replaced the pipe?

No I didn't what a spoon! How do I do that please?

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The old fashioned way was to crack open the connector to each injector in turn, ask a friend to crank the car over and tighten up the connector when diesel was coming out. Bit messy but worked.
I wouldn't be surprised if on a modern diesel there isn't an easier way, or even if it needs doing at all.

You could also make sure that there's no water in the water trap on the filter. Normally a warning light would come on when it was full, but Peugeot and electrics aren't the most reliable combination.

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DREWDEN wrote:
Can't you just take the old pipe to a garage and let them braze weld the fuel line.

I think the pipe should have been 8mm, someone will correct if i am wrong.

It had started to harden and deteriorate where it joins to the clips as well it look well and truly on its way out.

Oh I hope it isn't 8mm
but I took the clip to pages wit me and fitted it into the pipe there where it sat over the notches very nicely and wouldn't move with pulling. Also I put the metal ties that came with the pipe on for extra strength

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macca1411 wrote:
The old fashioned way was to crack open the connector to each injector in turn, ask a friend to crank the car over and tighten up the connector when diesel was coming out. Bit messy but worked.
I wouldn't be surprised if on a modern diesel there isn't an easier way, or even if it needs doing at all.

You could also make sure that there's no water in the water trap on the filter. Normally a warning light would come on when it was full, but Peugeot and electrics aren't the most reliable combination.

Right I'll have to have a look into that and may have to try bleeding it tomorrow. But I have noticed how much more resistance the priming bulb now has when the old pipe was on it took a good 60 seconds of pumping to build any pressure, now it's constantly firm.

I think I'm going to change the filter tomorrow for peace of mine so I'll check all that hopefully that'll solve the problem. It's like an SDI up hills at moment!

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Problem fixed!

Did as advised, cracked one of the injectors and used the priming bulb until all air bubbles stopped, tightened back up runs sweet as a nut now...

A MASSIVE thank you to everybody that helped me! The advice, as always, was spot on.

Cheers guys, saved me a lot of money and headache there, in total fix only cost £5.24, compared to the £40+ quote off garages.

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