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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:00 am |
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I was phoning around for some quotes for the timing belt change on the above car and got some surprisingly high figures (inc. VAT) £370 - £430. . .
Apparantly the job is suppossed to take 3.3 hours to complete.
From reading other posts on here I think it would be worth changing the belt myself for the saving in money.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:08 am |
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I changed the cam belt and fuel pump in about 5 hours but that was the first time I had done it on a 2.0HDI.
£400 sounds fairly steep as the kit is only about £100 including the water pump!
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:22 am |
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I am assuming that engine is covered in the Haynes manual but did you need any tools specific to that engine ?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:50 am |
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Does anyone know what part takes the most time? Is there a lot of surrounding stuff that has to be dismantled to get access ?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:24 am |
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There isn't much room to work which doesn't help. I've done a 1.4 HDi and a 2.0 138 206CC and both took me several hours but I wasn't rushing.
N/S wheel and wheel arch cover just forward of the driveshaft come off. Take off aux belt first. The belt covers, with several small allen headed bolts, and engine support have to come off, so the engine needs to be propped, and the crank pulley. You then pin the cam pulleys and the crank at TDC. You can then remove timing belt, swap out tensioner, idler and water pump, them put new belt on and check timing and tensioner a couple of times.
For me getting the belts back on were probably hardest as there just isn't room for your hands/arms and I was working alone. And I found out why several of the bolts were missing from the timing covers when I tried to get them back!
I won't say that it is impossible and the diesels are easier as you only have one cam to worry about, but take your time and it should be fine. You might need the Haynes 4613 manual (black cover).
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:55 pm |
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just started looking through that Haynes manual. It recommends removal of the front part of the exhaust system because of the engine mount business.
It also says need to fabricate a tool to lock the crankshaft pulley.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:56 pm |
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I didn't touch the rear engine mount. Had to remove the top engine mount to removed the cam covers and of course the belt.
Yes I ground a old Allen key into shape for tensioning. You may need to remove the started motor to find the hole to lock the crank. The pin goes through into the fly wheel.
I find its best to take lots of part off instead on messing around for hours trying to get your hands down or see e.g. the starter motor as it was pretty tricky to find the alignment hole.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:23 am |
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ok thanks, this sounds very doable and save myself a small fortune.
I purchased the car last year for £650 as a cheap runabout and the parts I will be replacing will be:
Alternator belt (looks quite manky)
Crankshaft damping pulley (MOT advisory of excess noise a couple of years ago)
Camblet kit (inc. Waterpump + tensioner etc) (now at +80k miles according to the history)
Looks like will be beginning of June before I get started though. Will post pictures once I have completed.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:04 am |
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a nice 'how to' would be good if your up for it 
unless there already is one?
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:12 am |
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will have my camera handy . . .
One more question: A kit that consists of Auxillary belt, Auxillary belt tensioner and, ac roller, costs about 100 quid on ebay.
This seems quite expensive.
Also I see the auxillary belt tensioner on its own listed on ebay for about 370 quid.
What goes on here ?
The reason I ask is that the rollers on my car for the auxillary belt have what appear to be flats on them. (Car has done 177,000 miles)
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:56 am |
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i find alot of ebay sellers whack the price up of items that they have ran out of stock of, so they dont have to end the listing and then pay to re list 
that pulley will be £37
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:17 pm |
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Is the DW10 an interference engine ?
i.e. if the belt fails will it mangle up the engine ?
(Car is now 92k miles since last belt change)
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:36 pm |
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| msw_206 wrote: |
Is the DW10 an interference engine ?
i.e. if the belt fails will it mangle up the engine ?
(Car is now 92k miles since last belt change) |
YES, but its designed to break the rockers in the valve train if the timing belt fails.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:26 am |
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:36 pm |
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Please be confident you can do the job. Cambelts are kinda critical. Ive not done a dw10 206 but I can do a 406 in about 90mins. Autodata times where that 3.3hrs came from are very subjective. It doesn't take into account skill level or how many times you've done one or how many problems you will encounter.
No reason not to try as in the grand scheme its not a hard one. Take a day to do it and it'll be a bonus if you finish sooner.
Also make sure you turn the tensioner the right way so the belt doesn't over tighten
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