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Gumpy54

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:18 am

Joined: Jan 11, 2015
Posts: 41
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Ok, so I currently have a 'V' plate 140 GTi. Runs fine, everything works but its a bit tatty and its my daily driver (I do about 500 miles a week).

Now, for a bit of a starter project, Im thinking of buying a good condition 3 door shell '52 plate or better (GTi 140 preferably), and getting a 180 engine (as there seem to be a lot of them about lately) and slotting her in.

As the '52 plate will more than likely be plex, I am assuming it will literally be plug and play (obviously with the correct ecu / loom from engine)?

TL/DR: Is it less complicated putting a 180 engine into a plex shell, seeing as the plex wiring is in place; than it is putting a 180 engine into a pre-plex shell, as all the wiring would also have to swap over (ball-ache)?

Yes, I know I can buy a cheap 180 these days, but Im after a project, something to keep me busy and so I can clean it up, powdercoat etc etc instead of taking my daily off the road to do it.
Some figures...
Good condition 140 = £650 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/102661519908854/?fref=nf)
180 engine, looms, etc etc. = £400
Time and effort = couple of weeks for swap and tweaking

Decent 180 = £1500

Edward

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:57 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Just buy the 180 and do that up.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

206gt160

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:22 am

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 676
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Blackburn

Get it done, if its a project your after and not just a new gti 180 then it sounds like a good one to me. It should be plug and play with it being plexed.


	1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles 2008 Audi A3 2.0 Tdi 170

Edward

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:35 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

The 180 has more sensors and a different loom. Much better and cheaper to start with the 180. At the age of these cars there will be lots of things to fix or improve.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

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