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Sim

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:12 am

Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1155
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Location: West Country

Just wanted to cry out on a shoulder of giants Very Happy

Having read all tens of forum topics on the subject, but my 15yo torsion bars wouldn't even budge

Doing it myself for last 3 days
soaked with WD40
yesterday switched to Plus Gas - spraying periodically
DIY socket extractor tool just keeps bending bolts
used paint stripper gun to heat up bar ends, hosing with cold water immediately -did that several times - no progress at all
Drums are on jacks cpl of mils up..
Got a sledgehammer and trying whacking it out as hard as is possible.. but is cumbersome as I have to hold the extension bit in place with another hand.. what else

Will need to call a mate to help holding the 1/2in ratchet extension whilst I whack with sledgehammer, but honestly running out of ideas, trying to use brainz first, of what's left that is.

Slide hammer would be nice, but hard to source; I would be fine at least if driver's end started to move, and pushing out opposite trailing arm off the ARB - not even that's happening

And I haven't even started on the bottom one, still doing the top bar from driver's side first, as per recommendations

Anyone around Bristol area could pop round? I'd really need this done until Sunday, or I guess I could put everything back on and drive up to a knowledgeable torion bar breaker - the bars will have already soaked the plus gas, making your job a tad bit easier Smile

Cheers me dears!


	2.0 HDi, year 2000 (E's restin') Red GTi 180, year 2004 (VorTechS' sEXy Beast (being) remasteRed) Blue GTi 180, year 2004 (in hibernation after endless driving fun in 2019, queued for "cambelt in tight spaces") Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (L-plates to P-plates to NO-plates, but now she wants powwer:)) £50 1.4 HDi, year 2002 (seatless transporter, SORNed, rust needs patching) EV Jag S(crapped)- & X-Type GTC VXR (sold)

Sim

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:54 am

Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1155
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country

Managed to source a slide hammer!!! \o/ Picking it up tonight, will see what happens


	2.0 HDi, year 2000 (E's restin') Red GTi 180, year 2004 (VorTechS' sEXy Beast (being) remasteRed) Blue GTi 180, year 2004 (in hibernation after endless driving fun in 2019, queued for "cambelt in tight spaces") Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (L-plates to P-plates to NO-plates, but now she wants powwer:)) £50 1.4 HDi, year 2002 (seatless transporter, SORNed, rust needs patching) EV Jag S(crapped)- & X-Type GTC VXR (sold)

spike_202

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:18 pm

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2504
Trade Rating: +19
Location: West mids

All you need is a 2nd pair of hands holding a flat ended metal bar (smaller than the torsion bar) then a sledge hammer.


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Sim

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:20 am

Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1155
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country

It wouldn't budge, trying to whack it out like mad, it's seized for good Blow torch time (any tips on exactly what and how needs to be heated?) I'll shield off brake lines and remove abs lead


	2.0 HDi, year 2000 (E's restin') Red GTi 180, year 2004 (VorTechS' sEXy Beast (being) remasteRed) Blue GTi 180, year 2004 (in hibernation after endless driving fun in 2019, queued for "cambelt in tight spaces") Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (L-plates to P-plates to NO-plates, but now she wants powwer:)) £50 1.4 HDi, year 2002 (seatless transporter, SORNed, rust needs patching) EV Jag S(crapped)- & X-Type GTC VXR (sold)

Edward

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:09 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7042
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Put the screws back in if hitting the bars otherwise you'll dent the bar ends


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Sim

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:56 am

Joined: Jun 20, 2012
Posts: 1155
Trade Rating: +1
Location: West Country

Thanks Edward, good I had a taper kit before listening to your wise advise One week of bashing, and I gave up (though not the torsion bars sadly). Last resort was heating bar ends with blow torch for 5mins then screwing in 10.2 strength bolt over a socket - nada. Here are the victims (will write up full experience in the build thread at some point)


	2.0 HDi, year 2000 (E's restin') Red GTi 180, year 2004 (VorTechS' sEXy Beast (being) remasteRed) Blue GTi 180, year 2004 (in hibernation after endless driving fun in 2019, queued for "cambelt in tight spaces") Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (L-plates to P-plates to NO-plates, but now she wants powwer:)) £50 1.4 HDi, year 2002 (seatless transporter, SORNed, rust needs patching) EV Jag S(crapped)- & X-Type GTC VXR (sold)

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Edward

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:44 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7042
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

I struggled to get mine out even when they'd been put in with copper grease on the splines. The axle was off the car too so access was easier. Plusgas for a week and plenty of heat got them out eventually.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

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