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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:55 am |
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Hey Guys,
Just joined - took me forever to find this forum on google, but glad I have. 
We bought a 2003 206 LX 1400 that had been sat for about 8 months as our base for our rally car build:
Got it back to the workshop and wasted no time removing the rear half of the interior:
No pictures of the seats coming out, but the front and back ones are available if anyone needs that nasty teal green in their lives.
Then I took a while tagging all the engine wiring ready to pull it out for a rebuild:
Yesterday, I finished removing the dash, and the heater system:
And started removing the carpet and sound deadening:
Hopefully next weekend we'll have pulled the remaining bits of the interior, found a place to buy some dry ice, and will be removing the laminated sound deadening that is left over, and scraping away the seam seal and removing paint ready for seam welding.
Then it's engine out and bay prep for more seam welding, and installation of the cage time.
While doing all of this, I discovered our car is CANBUS, so we'll get the lovely task of rewiring the indicators, wipers, and other interior stuff that is currently a mess of wire, and hopefully make it solidly reliable.
And of course it has an immobiliser. Is there any way to completely disable the immobiliser with an ECU remap or something? I have visions of it deciding to all go wrong while between stages and us having to retire from an event due to electronic pixies that are non-trivial to fix.
-Amy
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:51 am |
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That is awesome!
I believe immobiliser is BSI driven... But can be wrong.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:56 am |
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Thanks! We've got 5 months to get it done before the first event we want to enter, so hopefully we pull it off! Ripping stuff out of the car is always the easy part with a build ain't it?
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| I believe immobiliser is BSI driven... But can be wrong. |
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right... I found this post that seems to imply you can potentially disable it in the ECU. I guess if not, then I'll just superglue the transponder from the key onto the antenna and stash it somewhere in the dash where it can't get hurt and hope for the best!
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:01 am |
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Glue it on the BSI. Won't ever get separated... so if you need to replace something of the dash, you don't have to be concerned about the chip. If you break/kill the BSI, the chip could potentially be rendered useless anyways...
Taking apart can be a pain in the bum! The stuff they use can be annoying. I take more joy out of rebuilding, though testing is always squeaky-bum time.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:01 pm |
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Not a bad idea. I also found an emulator type deal that might work and let us ditch the BSI or reduce its involvement in the car to the very bare minimum. Might have to pick up a spare ECU to play around with and see if that'll work.
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:58 pm |
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Fit an aftermarket ecu to run everything independently. Cost a few quid but at least the engine won't rely on the original wiring etc.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:06 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| Cost a few quid |
Heh, if I didn't have a super tight budget, I'd tear it all out and replace it with a megasquirt setup like I have on my Camaro. Alas, we're doing this as cheaply as possible - the car was £95 -, so if there's a £20 fix for a problem or a £300 fix for a problem, it'll be the £20 we go for.
Then again... if we make £300 of savings in other parts, I might be able to justify it
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:27 pm |
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Looks a good project, will be keen to see how it turns out
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:58 pm |
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Got some more work done today. We stripped out the rest of the interior, and after seeing just how much spaghetti comes with a multiplex canbus system, we decided to say screw it and dump all of it in favor of a Megasquirt and custom internal wiring.
So now it looks like this:
Just need to pull the pedal box now, and the engine harness, and we'll be done on the inside and ready to prep.
We also took the opportunity to get rid of all the crap we'd torn out, and filled the back of my Tahoe until it was basically overflowing, then managed to arrive at the tip 2 minutes before closing time which was pretty lucky.
In other news, we've almost managed to get hold a 307 to steal brakes and the gearbox from, which is excellent.
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:05 am |
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The inside looks gorgeous!
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:04 pm |
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It's not in bad shape that's for sure! There's a small patch where it has been welded up for some reason - about 1" wide by 4" long, which needs grinding back, re-doing and rust treating, but other than that it's pretty much perfect! Really please for the £95 we spent on it!
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:28 pm |
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£95 certainly gets more solid metal than it used to!
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:33 pm |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:44 pm |
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Watching this thread  Especially after the driveme blast today, I think I'm down with the track bug 
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:25 pm |
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How was driveme? I can highly recommend a track project. Not having to worry about creature comforts is really liberating.
Here's a better picture of the little blue beast we bought:
Gotta find a place to buy replacement gears now... any ideas?
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