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 Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:52 pm |
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Last week my son bought a 2000 1.6 Roland Garros saloon with under 70,000 miles on the clock. We've sorted out a few minor issues such as light bulbs, tailgate adjustment and a replacement rocker box gasket but the central locking is causing me much head scratching.
The symptoms are that the door locks bounce when being locked either with the remote or manually. We did manage to lock it manually once but when we returned to the car park the doors were all unlocked again.
Am I right in assuming that the computer that controls the central locking requires an electrical confirmation (from the courtesy light switches) that each of the five doors is closed before it will operate the solenoids and leave them set?
I have noticed that the driver's door, both rear doors and the tailgate all operate the courtesy lights but the front passenger's door does not. Could this be the problem as all the solenoids can be heard operating with the usual 'clunk'?
Would getting the courtesy light switch working solve the problem? I realise that the switch itself could be faulty or the wiring in the A pillar trunking could be broken.
There is also a plunger switch in the part of the tailgate latch that is attached to the body and I've checked that that is working correctly. I'm assuming that the tailgate light mercury switch is not part of the central locking system. Am I right?
Any advice would be most gratefully received.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:22 pm |
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The switch for the courtesy light also tells the central locking system the door is shut correctly.
The switch is part of the door latch.
A Roland Garros should have the deadlocking type door latch.
There was also a wiring plug modification on the early cars to allow the later type door latches to be fitted - id be shocked if a 17 year old 206 hasnt already been modified in the past.
I reckon you will end up replacing the front passenger side door latch.
The switch on the tailgate is for the alarm system - big button on remote fob locks the car then press the small button within 3 seconds to set the deadlocks & also arm the alarm system.
NOTE: 206 have been fitted with two different types of central locking systems - Normal central locking OR deadlocking.
The latches for each type of locking system are NOT interchangeable!
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:04 pm |
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Wow, that was quick and so helpful. Thank you.
I can confirm that the car does have deadlocks (the fob has two buttons)
I've no way of knowing if the connectors have been modified but I am sure that I'm the first person ever to have removed the door card. Would it have been possible to modify the connectors without removing the door cards or does this mean ours are still the originals?
Will I have to replace the whole door latch mechanism or just the switch?
Sorry to ask so many questions but this is new territory to me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:17 pm |
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The switch is part of the door latch - it would be a complete replacement door latch required.
Also get new plastic clips for the door card - they normally break during removal.
Door card would have needed to be removed to modify the connector plug.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:52 pm |
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Thanks again! I'm now much clearer about what's needed and can start looking for the replacement parts.
I have to say that I was surprised when I removed the door card to find that the foam seal was still in its virgin state.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:20 pm |
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I've been looking on eBay for a replacement lock and I'm still a bit confused.
1. Do the original locks have a 9-pin connector and the modified ones 6-pin (or is it the other way round)? Both are available.
2. I've found somewhere (perhaps one of your posts?) detailing the parts to order from Peugeot to make up an adapter plug. These are Terminal 6541 E6 (6 off), Clip holder 6541 LR (1 off) and Plug 6541 LS (1 off). Are there any instructions anywhere for how to make up the adapter from these components?
3. Given the choice, should I buy a 9-pin or a 6-pin door lock with deadlock?
The plan for this weekend is to remove the existing lock and look for part numbers, see how it operates etc and then buy the necessary bits.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:39 pm |
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Id have a look at the latch currently fitted to the door & see if you can get a matching part number to replace it.
There are so many different versions of the door latch it would be better to try & get an exact match.
If you PM the VIN over ill look the Peugeot part number up.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:05 pm |
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Will do when my son visits over the weekend.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:42 am |
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This is becoming very frustrating!
I found the correct 9-pin part at a breaker's in Wales via eBay, bought it and the wrong part (6-pin) arrived the following day. When I contacted them they were unable to find the part they had photographed and advertised and simply refunded my money telling me to 'dispose of' the one they sent.
Back to square one.
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:40 am |
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I'll have a look at the weekend and see if I still have some spare locks lying around. I recovered two from my original doors, and I believe both doors that were replaced were passenger side (I know the rear one was).
I _think_ I've seen them knocking about, but I'm not sure where!
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:41 am |
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That's very kind. Thank you.
Fingers crossed.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:38 pm |
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Well, it took a bit of hunting to find the correct part and I ended up paying twice what I expected but I can now report that the central locking and interior light on my son's car are once again operating as Monsieur Peugeot intended.
The replacement part was of a different make from the original and I had to swap a couple of the operating rods and their plastic retaining clips but once I'd worked that out, fitting the 'new' one was straightforward.
Testing the system was a bit of a nail-biter as I constantly expected the locks to bounce as before but no, after a dozen or so operations all seems to be working perfectly. Woo hoo!
Sincere thanks to all who helped.
PS I now have a surplus 6-pin passenger's side door lock (with deadlocks) available if anyone needs one.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:06 pm |
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Good to hear it was a simple fix by replacing the lock motor.
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