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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:12 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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Last edited by CD-B3 on Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:03 am; edited 14 times in total
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:16 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 84
Trade Rating: +4
Location: Minster - Kent
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ahhh what got some of these last year! Paid £56 for them! well worth the money, so well worth jumping on the group buy if you can people
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| 2001 2.0 HDi - Silver - SP grilles - Tinted Phase 2 rear lights - Re-mapped - Spax VSX - Group N gear linkages - GE Quickshift
2001 2.0 HDi - China Blue - SP Grilles - GTi leather interior
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:19 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 5348
Trade Rating: +33
Location: Kings Lynn
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I know for sure Georgie will be intersted!
Howey
Mrs_Howey
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spike_202 wrote: |
My Powerflow is quite loud but then again it's on ITBs and has a decat. |
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:11 am |
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Joined: Feb 21, 2010 Posts: 3945
Trade Rating: +45
Location: basingstoke
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are these a diy fit or down a garage
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| PAST -2008 Vauxhall Astra VXR / 2002 pug 206 GTI
PRESENT - VW Golf GTI Semi - Auto
Now have my 106 GTI track car
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:22 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 1265
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Truro/Falmouth, Cornwall
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CD-206GTi wrote: |
I'm able to get Goodridge Braided Brake hoses for £39.99 + P&P |
does that mean the 39.99 includes the p&p, or 39.99 and then more for p&p?
Yay! Goodridge do orange
sounds a bit iffy though.. found this on my google searching
some guy wrote: |
They are not
recommended for street use. Reason: Lines are rigid and
will not flex with the body as it turns and reacts to
road imperfections--rubber hoses will. As a result, the
lines can often get pinched and fail. Stainless lines are
OK in racing applications because race cars are subject
to constant inspections/bleeding/maintenance. If there is
an alignment problem it will likely be discovered. Most
people probably are not as disciplined in street
applications making the this mod impractical. In
addition, most steel braided brake lines do not pass the
DOT tests and therefore technically illegal for street
use. |
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Last edited by |SGP| on Fri May 14, 2010 9:26 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:24 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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|SGP| wrote: |
CD-206GTi wrote: |
I'm able to get Goodridge Braided Brake hoses for £39.99 + P&P |
does that mean the 39.99 includes the p&p, or 39.99 and then more for p&p?
Yay! Goodridge do orange |
P&P will be minimal, £1 - £2
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:26 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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meady wrote: |
are these a diy fit or down a garage |
You can DIY if you know how to bleed your brakes as you'll need to replace the brake fluid.
I'll be taking mine to a garage for peice of mind, only will be ½'s labour or so.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:29 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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some guy wrote: |
They are not
recommended for street use. Reason: Lines are rigid and
will not flex with the body as it turns and reacts to
road imperfections--rubber hoses will. As a result, the
lines can often get pinched and fail. Stainless lines are
OK in racing applications because race cars are subject
to constant inspections/bleeding/maintenance. If there is
an alignment problem it will likely be discovered. Most
people probably are not as disciplined in street
applications making the this mod impractical. In
addition, most steel braided brake lines do not pass the
DOT tests and therefore technically illegal for street
use. |
Sounds like he's had a bad experience with some.
However these are braided, woven, which have plenty of flex, I can tell you this due to owning some a while back.
Rubber hoses expand when braking & degrade over time.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:35 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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If anybody is expecting to notice a difference with braided hoses ask yourself a question.
If rubber hoses gave spongey pedal feel would they fit them to pretty much every car? If they were that poor wouldn't the manufacturers spend an extra few quid and fit braided hoses?
Buy some braided hoses if you want some that look better but don't buy them if you think they will give better braking.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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Edward wrote: |
If anybody is expecting to notice a difference with braided hoses ask yourself a question.
If rubber hoses gave spongey pedal feel would they fit them to pretty much every car? If they were that poor wouldn't the manufacturers spend an extra few quid and fit braided hoses?
Buy some braided hoses if you want some that look better but don't buy them if you think they will give better braking. |
Do you not have them on yours?
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:41 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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I do have them and they make no difference at all. You'd have to be driving your car on track and using the brakes as hard as possible all the time to see any difference.
Also there's no point in getting stainless hoses with zinc coated fittings. You'll need stainless fittings too which cost extra.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:48 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
Trade Rating: +53
Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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Edward wrote: |
I do have them and they make no difference at all. You'd have to be driving your car on track and using the brakes as hard as possible all the time to see any difference.
Also there's no point in getting stainless hoses with zinc coated fittings. You'll need stainless fittings too which cost extra. |
Thanks for the input, I'm judging interest on what would be a good upgrade. Its soley down to the buyers choice now.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:59 am |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010 Posts: 4013
Trade Rating: +25
Location: Worcester
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It's the fact that the Goodridge brake lines are thinner and don't expand (losing pressure) that are the 'plus points', surely?
The brake fluid is forced into the brakes quicker - therefore making the brakes more effective by being able to work sooner.
Before & after my brake hose replacement:
I have to say that it was a worthwhile purchase for my car.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:04 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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Antix wrote: |
It's the fact that the Goodridge brake lines are thinner and don't expand (losing pressure) that are the 'plus points', surely?
The brake fluid is forced into the brakes quicker - therefore making the brakes more effective by being able to work sooner.
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Nope, the walls of the rubber hose are thicker but interally they are the same.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:07 am |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010 Posts: 4013
Trade Rating: +25
Location: Worcester
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Edward wrote: |
Antix wrote: |
It's the fact that the Goodridge brake lines are thinner and don't expand (losing pressure) that are the 'plus points', surely?
The brake fluid is forced into the brakes quicker - therefore making the brakes more effective by being able to work sooner.
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Nope, the walls of the rubber hose are thicker but internally they are the same. |
The braided hoses look so much better than the rubber ones [and not likely to be cut by vandals/chavs/jealous rivals etc]
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