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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:44 pm |
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Joined: Feb 09, 2010 Posts: 405
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Location: Glasgow / Welling
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Ok so i have been saying for a while that I would start a project thread so here goes!
Bought the car from a guy WAY up north of Scotland and had the interior etc stripped out it and partly seam welded plus a few bits to install to make it a rally car.
original car before any work!
Inside all stripped out and welding started on all the seams
Engine bay with all the seams welded and painted to try and stop rust
All the sealer removed from the underside of the car and welding along the chassis rails etc
Ok so that was the state of the car when I bought it so the rest of the work was me. Thanks very much to the guy i bought it from for removing the sealer ive just done it on a 205 rally car im preparing and its one horrible job!!
Customs weld in cage to be fitted
New engine bay with the cage fitted
Inside the door. How i get in and out of there when the seats are in i dont know!!
Inside of the car with the cage fitted, seat rails welded in, all seams welded up
Bilstien jack points welded into the sills!
Roll cage finished
Then i faced the engine problem. What one to use.
I first started with the standard GTI engine.
Thought that i might get bored with that one so i bought a GTI 6 engine
Decided that putting a heavy engine in the front of a rally car may not be the best for handling and with a standard 180 engine the same performance id try a 180 engine!
Think i could join them together???
Ok look another engine this time an MI16 from a 405 mhhhh which to choose!!!
Choices!!! So that is where i stand so far with the project
Future work includes:
The quaife gear close ratio gear kit and tran x diff to be intalled into either the standard or gti180 box
Peugeot sport group a suspension to be fitted
I have plumbed in fire eater all ready, electrical cut off switch ready. I bought the reg plat BIG 2066 last year as well which i think is a cool touch for the car.
Im after Jamie's throttle bodies so i will see if i can raise the funds to purchase them and make this a real 180 BEAST!!
Im still working on the 206s older sister the 205 just now so progress may be slow but i hope to have the car done for September to compete in the International Rally of Scotland.
205 rally car
Comments welcome and any advice!!
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| 206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant | |
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:48 pm |
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Joined: Mar 24, 2010 Posts: 575
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Good luck mate, looks really interesting and i look forward to the end result!
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:53 pm |
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Joined: Jan 25, 2010 Posts: 3497
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Location: VVT Land, Fife
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Have fun wiring that all up pal. LOL. Cool project
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:10 am |
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Joined: Feb 09, 2010 Posts: 140
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Location: Sittingbourne
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Good work! I'll follow this thread with interest....
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:43 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2275
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Location: birmingham
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gota be the 180 engine to put in id say as them mi16s are old and worn out compared to newer engines!!! great project though be good to see the finish
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:13 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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There are pros and cons of using the 180 engine. Setting up the 138 engine on throttle bodies is easier and there are more engines out there if spares are needed.
The 180 has a modified bottom end which could mean it's stronger and the cams will help get more power out of it. The downside is the VVT which is harder to set up but also gives a torque advantage if you can set it up with standalone management.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:44 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2505
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Location: West mids
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id say the gti6 mate buletproof block, like ed said you need to get spair parts and id imagin 180 parts are rather expensive lol. Looks a good project mate would like to see this against macj's rally project
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:32 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3085
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Location: Essex
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spike_202 wrote: |
id say the gti6 mate buletproof block, like ed said you need to get spair parts and id imagin 180 parts are rather expensive lol. Looks a good project mate would like to see this against macj's rally project |
So would I.... Good to see someone else in the sport building a 206 stage car
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:54 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 776
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Location: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire
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nice project man. just a shame though, the car looked stunning before all the work was started. but i suppose rally performance comes at a price. lol
keep it updated as often as you can. will be good to see the finished article and how it performs
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:45 pm |
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Joined: Feb 09, 2010 Posts: 405
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Location: Glasgow / Welling
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Thanks guys!!
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nice project man. just a shame though, the car looked stunning before all the work was started. but i suppose rally performance comes at a price. lol
keep it updated as often as you can. will be good to see the finished article and how it performs |
It was a CAT D right off so i have saved it from a life in the scrapie
Tried to fit the dash but it was a total pain in the a$$ trying to cut bits out to get it to fit around the roll cage!! Next step is to paint i think or maybe take the sump off the 180 engine to check its all ok. Should be as it has only done 30000 miles but best to check i suppose
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| 206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant | |
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:34 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 468
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Location: Telford
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sounds like you got a great project going, look forward to watching this. B)
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:02 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 5574
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Location: UK
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Interesting project, will def follow this progress!
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:35 pm |
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Joined: Feb 09, 2010 Posts: 405
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Location: Glasgow / Welling
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UPDATED PICS FINALLY
Been working hard over the last few weeks on the 205 but i have finally managed to get some time to work on the 206!!
I have removed all sealer from the bottom now as well as the inside, welded up all the drainage plug holes which takes ages!
The engine bay was primed ready for paint on tuesday and i have just finished off the rest of the body in primer tonight. Will update with those photos tomorrow its like a purple haze out there just now with the fumes.
Anyways here are the pics of the engine bay, inside all primed and the rest of the body all prepared for the primer to go on.
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| 206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant | |
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:52 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 1176
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Location: borders, near carlisle.
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wow, great project there mate! will keep a close eye on this one!
are you using standard internals or going the whole hog?
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:34 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 2194
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Location: Bristol & Leicester
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Cool project. You decided on what engine to use?
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