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1.1 to 1.4 ?
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curt
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:52 pm Up
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hi just wanted to no wood a 1.4 8v engine go in my 1.1 8v 02 206 ? with no messin about just i st8 bot in and plug in ?

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it would but you won't really feel the difference
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Waste of time, 1.1s are probably about the same speed till bwt 70, or uphill lol
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why are you wanting to put 1.4 in ,what you hoping for?.
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straight swap but you are looking at 250 in labour to swap it. possibly more. fair enough if the engine needs doing anyway though
 
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go for 1.6,mine is 1.4,thinking of doing it 1.6 8V :),just waiting for the right car to come to scrapy Very Happy
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MEGA
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The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.

Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel

1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.

 

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I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,

Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 Laughing


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NorthantsBen wrote:
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,

Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 Laughing

Power to weight is very important with small cars. Additional passengers or a boot full of ICE will make a massive difference Smile

 

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I've done a 1.4 8V to 1.6 16V conversion.
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Congrats Smile
 

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NorthantsBen wrote:
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,

Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 Laughing

think the older ones only have single point injection thats why. unless thats just on the saxo engines

 
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MEGA wrote:
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.

Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel

1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.

Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?

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Big_Rich180 wrote:
MEGA wrote:
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.

Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel

1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.

Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?

most scrap yards sell the block on its own without the gearbox. if you could get a decent clutch for the 1.1 i would stick with the gearbox as the gear ratios are bound to be shorter.

 
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Buy my 1.6 engine (s)?

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