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 Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010
Posts: 4013
Trade Rating: +25
Location: Worcester
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| no_offences wrote: |
| to be honest its you with animosity, i admit 180s are better,but you can surpass a 180 for less then it cost to buy a gti and a few upgrades, you can pick up a gti for 800 now and 180s are at least 3k there not worth 3 times as much and thats a fact. |
reality check please: 180's can be bought for £2000. They fetch more money because they were made from 2003, whereas a GTi 137 was made from 1999.
2003 GTi's can be bought for £1200+, so the extra £800 for a 180 is worth it (engine, interior, brakes, wheels, trim).
Obviously all values depend on condition and mileage.
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:25 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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| E5GDM wrote: |
| So much jealousy & animosity from 138 owners, the 180 is at least 25% more powerful, better spec'd, & better handling. 138 owners would probably have voted for Russia over England too. |
Are you saying I'm jealous of a GTi 180?
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:30 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Trade Rating: +12
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| Antix wrote: |
| no_offences wrote: |
| to be honest its you with animosity, i admit 180s are better,but you can surpass a 180 for less then it cost to buy a gti and a few upgrades, you can pick up a gti for 800 now and 180s are at least 3k there not worth 3 times as much and thats a fact. |
reality check please: 180's can be bought for £2000. They fetch more money because they were made from 2003, whereas a GTi 137 was made from 1999.
2003 GTi's can be bought for £1200+, so the extra £800 for a 180 is worth it (engine, interior, brakes, wheels, trim).
Obviously all values depend on condition and mileage. |
even only the 180 interior already worth 500 quid lol
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:32 pm |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010
Posts: 4013
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Location: Worcester
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| Edward wrote: |
| E5GDM wrote: |
| So much jealousy & animosity from 138 owners, the 180 is at least 25% more powerful, better spec'd, & better handling. 138 owners would probably have voted for Russia over England too. |
Are you saying I'm jealous of a GTi 180? |
You are not a GTi 138 owner anymore  
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:37 pm |
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Joined: Feb 15, 2010
Posts: 1848
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Leamington Spa
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pffft insurance is a breeze mate i insured my for a lot when i was 18 but when i was 19 it went down to £1500 some may consider a lot but it really isent lol..... 180 for the win
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:38 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 1312
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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My 180 averages about 33 mpg right now, not bad at all IMO.
The driving position isn't great for long journeys to be honest, and the build quality still leaves plenty to be desired. I did find the gearbox to be better than the 138, although still not great. But how many French gearbox's are...?
But anyway whoever started this, do you want to modify your car performance wise, or do you want to keep it standard?
Also, do you have to get another 206? I doubt I'll be getting another.
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:44 pm |
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:47 pm |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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Location: Worcester
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| Edward wrote: |
| Antix wrote: |
You are not a GTi 138 owner anymore |
Looks like a 138 so it must be a 138.... |
Bet it doesn't sound like a 138. Spike's didn't.
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:25 pm |
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Joined: Mar 28, 2010
Posts: 334
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Location: Blackwood, South Wales
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What I don't get is camp 138 saying buy a 138 and mod so you have same power as 180 but less to insure. So I take it there's alot of illegally modded 138's out there who haven't told insurers that there cars are modded? Because modding plays havoc with insurance so surely your better off paying the premium for a 180 anyway?!
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:28 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 352
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Location: Harrow, London
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| Lee. wrote: |
| What I don't get is camp 138 saying buy a 138 and mod so you have same power as 180 but less to insure. So I take it there's alot of illegally modded 138's out there who haven't told insurers that there cars are modded? Because modding plays havoc with insurance so surely your better off paying the premium for a 180 anyway?! |
Or get a properly fast hatch like a Type R or Cupra R if you are so het up about BHP figures...
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:31 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2801
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Barry, South Wales
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:33 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 1312
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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| MEGA wrote: |
| Lee. wrote: |
| What I don't get is camp 138 saying buy a 138 and mod so you have same power as 180 but less to insure. So I take it there's alot of illegally modded 138's out there who haven't told insurers that there cars are modded? Because modding plays havoc with insurance so surely your better off paying the premium for a 180 anyway?! |
Or get a properly fast hatch like a Type R or Cupra R if you are so het up about BHP figures... |
They're a tad more expensive. I think they're the 'next step' if you will. Well that's how it is for me 
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:40 pm |
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Joined: Mar 28, 2010
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Location: Blackwood, South Wales
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| MEGA wrote: |
| Lee. wrote: |
| What I don't get is camp 138 saying buy a 138 and mod so you have same power as 180 but less to insure. So I take it there's alot of illegally modded 138's out there who haven't told insurers that there cars are modded? Because modding plays havoc with insurance so surely your better off paying the premium for a 180 anyway?! |
Or get a properly fast hatch like a Type R or Cupra R if you are so het up about BHP figures... |
If I'm so het up on BHP? I was merely commenting that it's not as simple as:
Buy 138
Mod for more power
Now I am similar to/faster than 180 for less.
It doesn't work like that. Simply because the insurance rapes you for power mods so those wanting to save money insuring a 180 have completely defeated the object!
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:02 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Essex
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No matter what's done to a 138 it will always be the poor relation of the 180. After all, how many 138 replica 180's are there out there?
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:47 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 352
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Location: Harrow, London
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| Lee. wrote: |
| MEGA wrote: |
| Lee. wrote: |
| What I don't get is camp 138 saying buy a 138 and mod so you have same power as 180 but less to insure. So I take it there's alot of illegally modded 138's out there who haven't told insurers that there cars are modded? Because modding plays havoc with insurance so surely your better off paying the premium for a 180 anyway?! |
Or get a properly fast hatch like a Type R or Cupra R if you are so het up about BHP figures... |
If I'm so het up on BHP? I was merely commenting that it's not as simple as:
Buy 138
Mod for more power
Now I am similar to/faster than 180 for less.
It doesn't work like that. Simply because the insurance rapes you for power mods so those wanting to save money insuring a 180 have completely defeated the object! |
I hear you.
clearly the people with the attitude you refer to, are driving around on fraudulent insurance.
All well and good till someone hits their car, completely not their fault AT ALL.. But the insurance refuse to pay out..
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