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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:36 pm |
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Joined: Dec 17, 2010 Posts: 15
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Location: London
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This has been driving me nuts,
Ive got a 2002 206SW HDi 2.0.
Every morning that i go to start it , it fails , Explained :
Glow plugs have been changed. , i wait for the glow plug light to go out , and the fuel pump to finish priming.
it will turn over for a good 2-3 mins not starting
BUT 1 tiny squirt of easy start and BANG it fires up no questions asked.
Im now at a loss as to what the problem could be. its only started doing it since its become cold.
Does the 206 Diesel have a cold start sensor that i dont know about?
Any help is much appreciated
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:39 pm |
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Joined: Sep 12, 2010 Posts: 1912
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Location: Manchester
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have you tried shouting and screaming, and a swift kick? Since they are French they are quite emotional and need a bit of persuasion to do anything
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:42 pm |
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Yep , doesn't seem to like it to much though.
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:44 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
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i think it is just too cold
mine yesterday took 3 attempts to get it started lol
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:44 pm |
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Joined: Sep 12, 2010 Posts: 1912
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Location: Manchester
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ahh sorry, cant help any more than that! good luck with it, itll probably turn out to be something simple! always is
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:46 pm |
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Joined: Dec 17, 2010 Posts: 15
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Location: London
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Fingers crossed , ive just spent £40 on a new radiator for it. thanks for responding though
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:47 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 5575
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Location: Moscow
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Try turning the ignition on an off three or four times before trying to fire it, waiting for the glow plug light to go out. Then try to fire her. See if that works
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:51 pm |
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Location: London
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Thanks for the tip il give that a try first thing in the morning. Cheers
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:20 pm |
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Joined: Dec 14, 2010 Posts: 118
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Location: Sittingbourne, Kent
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Usually the fuel should be heated enough to start before it gets the glow plugs, iirc the HDi only uses the glow plugs when its about -5 oC
Also using too much easy start could damage pistons (not that I've seen that before though) probably an old wives tale!!
But im sure it creates displacement of oil in the pistons and thus lower compression and then no cold start.
There is a fuel heater on the fuel pipe just in front of the injectors (in front of the most left hand one).
Its black and about 2"wide, 1" deep and 1.5" high with a (approx) 10mm pipe in and out of it, which could be tired.
Here's one on fleabay (with bracket), sorry I couldn't find a better pic.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot...0490033781
It might be a compression issue or low fuel pressure at start though ???
I thought I had the same problem and done some research, until I found my alternator seized and therefore holding the fan belt, cheeking fecker!
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 516
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Location: Newcastle / Plymouth
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I do a few ignition reps with mine and seems to be ok. This weather has been so cold mind you, its been reluctant!
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:47 pm |
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Joined: Feb 15, 2010 Posts: 409
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Location: Melksham, Wiltshire
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Antknee wrote: |
have you tried shouting and screaming, and a swift kick? Since they are French they are quite emotional and need a bit of persuasion to do anything |
Quite true! When I had the misfiring fault on my 306 I got to the point of asking it to work properly.....
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:28 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 1407
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Location: Berkshire
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i have same problem my hdi didnt wanna start yesterday took 3 times to start it and did wait for glow light got newish battery so duno wot it could be
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2360
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Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield
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I've got the same car, and I've experienced problems starting, but I'm more concerned with my door freezing up lol. It's nothing to worry about, just the -5'c temperatures outside
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:42 am |
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Joined: Dec 17, 2010 Posts: 15
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Location: London
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pedro_keil : I had a feeling there had to be something other than the glow plugs , im going to check that out.
and at £16 to fix i hope thats the cause !
thanks for that
also going to try the 3 turns before starting
Thanks for all the other suggestions guys
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:23 am |
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Joined: Dec 17, 2010 Posts: 15
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Right , Tried turning the key 3 times before starting , waiting for 1, the glow plug light , and then the glowplug relay click , that didnt work.
all the glowplugs get a stable 12V to them so they are working.
i couldnt locate the Fule heater suggested by pedro_keil , im assuming that it may have been on earlier or later models
anyone else have any ideas
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