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 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:20 am |
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how much effort and money would be involved in putting either a GTi180, or a mi16 engine in my pug? don't worry bout people sayin its not werth the effort nd stuff im willin to do it! just want to know if there anyone on here that done it or knows where can do it
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:32 am |
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180 would bolt in but you would need the whole loom ,dash loom, clocks , bsi, ecu and the ecu would need unlocking unless the you get the key and reader around the ignition
the 180 is FLY BY WIRE throttle so you would also need the pedal box and also the gearbox is cable operated so all the linkages would need changing
mi16 has been done before on here be a member who put a t16 engine in (turbo mi16 engine) so its not impossible
what year is your car if its multiplexed it will be harder to put the mi16 engine
alot of people will say just buy a gti or 180 but if your wanting a good project go for it
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:35 am |
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About £1000 to do it properly, if you did most of the work yourself.
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| My Powerflow is quite loud but then again it's on ITBs and has a decat. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:36 am |
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i don't want to buy a new car just want to put a new angine isn't it i was gonna try gettin a wreck gti 180 (back end crash) nd just take all the bits off i don't mind doing it really i think it would be fun
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:42 am |
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i got a neighber with ramps welding stuff nd all s**t like tht so i mean not gonna be hard for me
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:54 am |
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Ecosse do the GTi conversion for £800 and GTi 180 conversion for £1000 exc. parts
It aint a simple job mate, you really need to know what you are doing.....How about buying a really cheap 206 for £300 pound, take all the looms, engine, subframe and gearbox out then try and put everything back in and get it running, if you are successful at that then go ahead with a conversion 
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:58 am |
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i do all tht at college lol but i might take it to ecosse
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:00 am |
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| T_bandery wrote: |
Ecosse do the GTi conversion for £800 and GTi 180 conversion for £1000 exc. parts
It aint a simple job mate, you really need to know what you are doing.....How about buying a really cheap 206 for £300 pound, take all the looms, engine, subframe and gearbox out then try and put everything back in and get it running, if you are successful at that then go ahead with a conversion |
Thats a brilliant idea!
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| spike_202 wrote: |
| My Powerflow is quite loud but then again it's on ITBs and has a decat. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:03 am |
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it is indeed lol
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:13 am |
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why bother to put another engine in?
the TU5 block is quite tunable
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:19 am |
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A 1.6 engine is never going to be as big on torque as a 2 litre though and it's that which makes the car shoot off down the road...
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:28 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| A 1.6 engine is never going to be as big on torque as a 2 litre though and it's that which makes the car shoot off down the road... |
true.
but unless he got massive amount of buget.
1.6 block with cam and ITB would beat the stock 180
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:34 am |
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But not on torque. Might match it on BHP but would be much peakier.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:23 am |
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put a gti6 in there with a xsara 5 speed box 
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:30 am |
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well depends how much money its cost
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