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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:24 am |
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My brakes have begun to squeak, I'm pretty sure it's not the "early warning signs" of needing new brake pads as it's just at the end of a brake and the noise is very high pitched. I realise that some brands of semi-metallic pads are noisier than others because of the ingredients used in the manufacture of the friction material, metal filings ect.
However I simply can't stand the noise, stupid I know, but it's not going to change any time soon, so I thought I'd ask if there is any tips or tricks to quieten this noise without having to- "make them true again".
Also when I do come to change them is there any advice on which brand to get, which are notoriously un-squeaky or should I just stick with oem.
Cheers!
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:34 am |
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what pad are you using now?
clean the pad and disc as it could only because there is dirt between which are causing the noise.
copper gease the back of the pad might help
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:39 am |
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EBC green stuff pads, relatively recently changed.
Yeah I've done that and no luck, was wondering whether there was any other options, might try sanding it?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:46 am |
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did you bed in the pad?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:51 am |
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Mine used to squeal really bad. So I bought some anti squeal shims from Peugeot and problem solved!
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:51 am |
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Yeah following the way that Ape did in a thread...
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:52 am |
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| arronmee1990 wrote: |
| Mine used to squeal really bad. So I bought some anti squeal shims from Peugeot and problem solved! |
Thanks 
How much were they and could you fit yourself?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:54 am |
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Can't remember now but less than £20 for a front pair. Yeh dead easy to fit, just slot in
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:58 am |
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might have to try that then, better than getting new pads!
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:00 am |
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| DS_Sport wrote: |
EBC green stuff pads, relatively recently changed.
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You have answered your own question there.
Fit DECENT brake pads not EBC s**te 
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:03 am |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| DS_Sport wrote: |
EBC green stuff pads, relatively recently changed.
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You have answered your own question there.
Fit DECENT brake pads not EBC s**te |
from looking at reviews ect they appeared to be alright and cost effective!
Care to venture an alternative brand?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:07 am |
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Brembo for discs
Ferodo Premier for pads.
Heard far to many horror stories about EBC s**te through friends in the trade, they wont even fit EBC to there own cars & they can get them trade price 
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:11 am |
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Ok I'll look into that then, cheers mate 
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:23 am |
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as far as i remeber green stuff has build in rubber shim already.
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from ebc website:
All EBC coloured range pads - green, red and yellow - are high mileage compounds. and you cannot expect their optimum performance straight out of the box. Brake effect will be GOOD and certainly SAFE but not at their BEST. Pads need to be bedded in geometrically which could take 400-600 miles, even on new rotors and after that pads have to final cure chemically which can take another 1000 miles. Experience shows us that out of the box all EBC pads perform equal to or better than OEM parts and most other aftermarket parts but they just keep getting better with time so hang in there - and please don’t criticise the performance of the pads until they are fully bedded. Also during the life of the pads remember to monitor pad wear as half worn pads or more than half worn pads will cause a significant reduction in performance of the brake. In sport use and for optimum braking we recommend changing pads when there is 3/16 th inch (4mm) of friction material left on the steel backing plate and not to wear the pads any lower. Pads and calipers start to overheat when friction material goes below this level. Remember the faster and harder you drive, the faster pads will wear and a wrong spec pad could wear out surprisingly quickly so keep an eye on the pads, especially if you see more dust than expected. In race use wear will be MUCH faster.
In Street use situations …
Bedding in when the red EBC surface coating (marked on the pads as Brake In) is applied.
Best procedure is to drive gently avoiding harsh braking unless in an emergency for first 100 miles. In the second 100 miles (up to 200) you can use gently increasing brake pressures when using the brakes.
Only after 200 miles urban driving (not 200 miles on a freeway where brakes are almost unused) should you attempt to apply heavy load and heat to the brakes. To do this final bedding on a QUIET ROAD in safe traffic apply the brakes and slow from 60 to 10 MPH five times in a row. Then drive slowly for a few minutes if safe to do so to allow the brakes to cool. Try to avoid coming to a rest whilst the brakes are heated.
A smell may be noticed from the warm brakes, this is normal. Repeat this procedure a second time after the brakes have TOTALLY cooled down. EBC pads get better with miles. Even after this bed in procedure it can take up to 1500 miles before the pads are at their best. In the meantime the pads will be good and safe but true potential not realised. EBC makes performance pads that last, they do not bed in within 5 minutes driving. Noises will be more likely during the first 1000-1500 miles use whilst this chemical bedding takes place.
NEVER attempt to sand or scotchbrite brake pads to assist it bedding in or noise reduction,this will only make things worse by taking the pads "Off-Flat" and require hundreds of miles driving to seat them again during which time the brakes will feel very dull. The only way to seat pads is against the rotor they will be used on and by following our bedding recommendation.
Bedding in for trackday or race use …
We remind you there is NO WARRANTY on any EBC product for race use due to the very varying conditions that can be seen. However, care bedding pads in and monitoring wear will get the best from our products.
Most EBC pads including Yellow range pads now have the brake in coating. If possible and using a street based car, fit the pads before the race use and bed in as above for street use. Try to get 200-300 miles urban driving on the pads before racing them. If this is NOT possible and you fit at the track bed like this.
Drive two laps steadily applying the brakes every few seconds and then coast for a full lap without any unnecessary braking to allow pads and rotors to cool down. Drive a third lap applying the brakes slightly harder each time and again drive a cooldown lap. Do NOT pull up and park the car with the brakes red hot, try to let them cool as much as possible before coming to a rest.
It is also important to understand that the pads must be geometrically matched to the rotor (flat and parallel) before they will bed in chemically. If you do the above bed in and get violent fade first use you MUST repeat the bedding procedure. We get lots of new customers calling in saying my brakes have faded and when they send a digital the pad is only touching on 70-80% of its surface area.
Fade early in a pads life is almost a good thing. It is called GREEN fade and will disappear so if you suffer Green fade (you will notice this by smell), you are on the right path and this is not a negative. If you are getting fade after 20 laps and the pads are part worn, then something else needs looking into such as material choice, bleeding of the system, driving style etc …
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:45 am |
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Well I won't be sanding them then that's for sure! I pretty much did that bedding technique, mixed with what Ape said. I've only done about 800 miles with them so far. I'm certainly not saying anything against the performance, guess I'll just have to wait until the noise gradually fades.
Cheers for that mate should have really read this beforehand! I'm very impressed with your kindness.
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