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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:47 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2011 Posts: 9
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Location: Lincolnshire
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Hi all,
i'm looking for some help / advice. i'm new to the forum and to the world of 206's. I bought privately only 2 weeks ago a 206 gti hdi 1.6 110hp, it is a fantastic car but it the two weeks of ownership it has hardly been on the road.
It started on the way home with the unblock fuel filter message I assumed this was the fuel, I had lots to learn.
i googled the problem and discovered the fap system which i new nothing about. The tank was almost empty so I bought from my local dealer £100 worth of liquid gold and refilled the tank, resulting in no change.. a friend plugged into the car and it showed the fuel cap sensor had failed another £65 and still no change tried driving for half an hour in 3rd gear 3000rpm and normal driving for 30 mins but still the same message.
the performance seems fine but it does appear to be thirsty returning around 35 mpg. also on switching the car off the fan runs on for 5 mins is this related? is there anything else I can do? before I loose all faith? I've been told i can remove and clean the filter but cant even see it on the car? is it near the manifold. will it have to go to Peugeot for more expense? Im really struggling to stay posotive but love the car.
any help/ advice very much apprecaited.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:55 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 91
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Location: Northern Ireland
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Needs to got to pug to be plugged to tell it the fluid has been topped up and then a forced regen of the fap, then all should be fine, not sure on costs though
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:57 am |
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Joined: Jan 13, 2011 Posts: 664
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Location: aldershot
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:16 am |
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Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Posts: 657
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Location: newcastle upon tyne
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yeah it needs to go to dealer so they can plug it in and put the fluid though, not alot of other garages wil tuch this,
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:54 am |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Posts: 3
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Location: Harlow
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If the fan is going when you stop the car is regenerating the filter this is normal.
Do you do alot of small trips if so that will block the filter quicker mine now only gets used for long trips and it doesnt regen that often and is used everyday. I also seviced the car and it seems to have made a difference.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:32 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3666
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Location: Scotland
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They should have cleared the fault codes when topping up the fluid.
Your MPG will drop quite a bit during regeneration.
The FAP is directly after the turbo and can be removed and steam cleaned from what I've heard.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:10 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2011 Posts: 9
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Location: Lincolnshire
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Hi,
Thanks for the fast and helpful replies. i've been trying to keep the costs down and did the fluid top up and other work myself. The car will be used mainly for 12 miles each way daily trip to work and occasional weekend work, wandered if it is worth trying to clean the filter out, or best to take to pug to have everything reset etc. thanks again.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:11 am |
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Joined: May 12, 2010 Posts: 17
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Location: Barrowford
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I have the same problem, dealer says I need FAP replacing at a cost of around £700 - £750 notes!!! I looked around and have found a small firm near me that will replace the FAP with a straight pipe and reprogram the ECU so that it never knew there was a FAP, mpg will improve and i'll never need worry about it again. Price......... £450, lots cheaper than reaplacing through a stealer and more peace of mind.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:53 am |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Posts: 3
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Location: Harlow
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If you can get the filter out i've read that it can be steam cleaned then once dry put back on the car, the other way is to take it out some people literally just remove the filter and leave it like that no remap or anything and still no fault codes.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:31 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3263
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Location: Bristol
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From what ive read. you can clean yours because this is all pug will do. give you a recon one which has been cleaned.
not sure what to use and how but i cant see how you could go far wrong.
as for the fuild i think you need pug to tell the brain that is had been fuild back up. imo i would try clean your filter. then book it in for an half hour to do the dig on it and i would hope it sould be sweet.
touch wood ive not had any problems with mine but i will be going down get rid of it and map the old girl but will also need to fit a better clutch/flywheel while your at it.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:00 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 13077
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Location: England
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You can fill the fluid up yourself, then just go onto the settings with PP and tell the ECU its been filled up.
Or you can smash the middle out of the FAP, and fill the tank with diesel [bodge job]
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm |
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Joined: Jan 01, 2011 Posts: 111
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Location: Huddersfield
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Peter I have exactly the same. The warning and beep on every start and when read it showed the fuel cap sensor. I replaced this and Lee read and reset all my faults. Still the warning comes up. It's being topped up this weekend and the snap on kit my mate has can also reset the counters (according to him). If not I'll get it topped up and get Lee to reset them on Peugeot Planet. I'll let you know how I get on. I thought I was reading one of my own threads to start with!
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:33 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 13077
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Location: England
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Yeah you might be able to reset it with that, I know a few Sealey code readers can do it.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:01 pm |
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Joined: Jan 01, 2011 Posts: 111
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Location: Huddersfield
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I'll be coming back again Lee as I need a new unused key coding. Apparently Planet can do it so a first for us both!
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:03 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 13077
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Location: England
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Really?
I didn't know you could code them
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