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 Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 05, 2011
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Location: Mexico
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Adding more info here, I got the Z9 stalk on my 2006 206 (1.6 110hp TU5JP4 8AD...) but didn´t checked about the clutch/brake switch, the BSI detected the stalk and gave the functions on screen while the pps was plugged, accel/deccel, set, but when on testride, it didn´t work, maybe I have to check the other "needed switches" also, done a quickview on servicebox, the stalks are different because of the DAM (factory number) so thats why the 2 stalks, and changes on the multiplex.
Here in México a friend of mine has a 2004 206XT (1.6 110hp, TU5JP4 VF3...)) and just installed the Z9 stalk (actually he let me use his to test on mine) and it worked, he only had to clear an engine warning when he set to present the CC, he has also chance to switch gears, but because his car is automatic (tiptronic).
From his experience, we have to check 3 things:
1.- Multiplexed car
2.- ABS and Airbag control under the ashtray (maybe all of your cars have it)
3.- The car needs to have ABS (maybe also all of you have it).
After all this, I think it´s a matter if the BM34 has the options installed, not only active; that´s why on the BS1 you can set it to present or "on" but the car don´t recognize the CC.
Best Regards
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:51 pm |
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Updating the last info, about the 3 things you must have:
1.-ABS + Airbag computer (under ashtray)
2.-Multiplexed car
3.-Electronic Throttle
I just did a "field research" and find that my car has 1 clutch switch, but has space for another one, the switch has 2 wires, and later on a second view from the wiring under the steering, I found the other "hidden" conector with other 2 wires 
Also found on servicebox that the stalk is "optional" on my car, so I have to do further research, I´ll post it here as soon as I find 
Best Regards
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:20 pm |
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Location: Denmark
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First, this is a post simply to inform about my findings about retrofitting cruise control on a lower spec 206. The last few weeks I´ve read too many posts on different forums, both pros and cons, succeses and failures, switches and wiring looms and what not, that I´ve long since lost my way around it, and I guess many people feel the same, from posts I´ve read:-). I can´t give any further truth to the matter, but I want to give what I´ve found so far, that others with the same car may have some info to start from.
In short, i got my cruise control to work today, after a few attempts to locate the proper menus in PP. A few weeks ago I received this Lexia 3 clone:
www.obd2tap.com/lexia-...-p-11.html
I´ve hooked up my car a few times since then, but havent really gone in depth with it, due to a bad battery on my XP laptop with PP installed. Then today I used an extension cord, and had the time to explore the menus. And I can confirm that the cruise control can be activated simply by activating two menus in PP, and installing the CC stalk.
The stalk was ordered new from Germany:
eshop.original-teile.d...ram=6242z8
My car is a 2008 206 1.4 hdi multiplexed, low spec, with manual aircondition and only a few ekstras, such as front fogs and leather steering wheel.
In PP, I changed two settings: One in the "customer options" menu under "configuration", where I set the cruise control from "absent" to "present". The other was in the setting under "test by ECU", "engines ECU", "configuration", "cruise control with speed limiter"(other options are type 1 w/o speed limiter, type 2 w/o speed limiter and absent).
About the engine ECU configuration, my PP didnt recognise the ECU, instead it thought about it for a while, and then said something like "unknown reference, writing the new reference". This took a couple of minutes. It then asked for confirmation about whether I wanted to configure the ECU, even though it wasnt recognised. Only then could I access the settings mentioned above. Saving the configuration process went flawlessly. And strangely enough, several of the menus prompted me to turn OFF the ignition before reading, this I simply ignored and proceeded with the ignition ON.
Thats it! The CC works like a charm, the selected speed is shown in the odometer display, the green CC light turns on in the instrument cluster. the speed limiter works. No extra switches, wires or anything.
Naturally I cannot know about other peoples BSI or ECU´s, but on my exact model and year it worked flawlessly. And so did the activation of the trip computer as well, on another note.
I´ll be glad to answer any questions about anything I might have left out, about the menus I might have forgotten some details, I´ll gladly hook it back up to check it again. I hope this clarifyes doubts, people with this exact model/year might´ve had, so we can spread out cheap cruise control to other bold and brave peugeot drivers out there 
Long post phew! Hope I didnt waste your time too much!
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:24 pm |
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Location: Mexico
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Excellent info, thank you so much for clarifying
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:26 pm |
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The long and short of it is, it all depends on what ECU you have fitted - a lot of the later models can have it retro-fitted without any issues. As for mine, everything is there but I will need a different ECU to enable CC through PP2000.
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:39 pm |
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Location: Denmark
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| G. wrote: |
| The long and short of it is, it all depends on what ECU you have fitted - a lot of the later models can have it retro-fitted without any issues. As for mine, everything is there but I will need a different ECU to enable CC through PP2000. |
Thats harsh. Worst is, that its quite difficult to make a definite list on which units will do it, and which wont...I´dve guessed that a 2005 would have the option, being multiplexed.
Do you have the options, or are they simply not there? Could it be that it wont read/write it correctly due to bad french translations?(longshot, I know...just felt I have to ask, from my own PP:-). If people turn off the ignition before reading the ECU, I´d doubt it could be written after changing the setting
Sorry for clutching at your straw...it just seems weird, but I guess thats easy to say if Im one of the lucky ones...
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| Best regards\r\nLindenhoch | |
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:48 pm |
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| thehoch wrote: |
| G. wrote: |
| The long and short of it is, it all depends on what ECU you have fitted - a lot of the later models can have it retro-fitted without any issues. As for mine, everything is there but I will need a different ECU to enable CC through PP2000. |
Thats harsh. Worst is, that its quite difficult to make a definite list on which units will do it, and which wont...I´dve guessed that a 2005 would have the option, being multiplexed.
Do you have the options, or are they simply not there? Could it be that it wont read/write it correctly due to bad french translations?(longshot, I know...just felt I have to ask, from my own PP:-). If people turn off the ignition before reading the ECU, I´d doubt it could be written after changing the setting
Sorry for clutching at your straw...it just seems weird, but I guess thats easy to say if Im one of the lucky ones... |
In the ECU itself, the option for CC cann't be saved when changing it from 'Absent' to 'Present' - it's locked out the ECU. Only way around it is to find an ECU from a 307 of the same spec as mine. Bit annonying seeing as everything else is there!
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:58 pm |
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| G. wrote: |
In the ECU itself, the option for CC cann't be saved when changing it from 'Absent' to 'Present' - it's locked out the ECU. Only way around it is to find an ECU from a 307 of the same spec as mine. Bit annonying seeing as everything else is there! |
Hmm, you mean it cant be changed in the menu, or it keep changing back after seemingly saving okay? I also had some fuss with it, until I left the ignition on even though it prompted me to turn it off prior to reading it.
Besides that, the engine ECU would report "invalid choice" when I then reopened the menu to check the setting.
Sorry about the interrogation, if you already tried all the options I must come off as real idiot 
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:11 am |
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Joined: May 24, 2011
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Location: Kent
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Ok, so I have the switches on the brake and clutch, I have the control stalk....I took it to Peugeot in Maidstone who tried there best but my ECU wouldn't allow them to change the setting from absent to present. They tried it with ignition on and off also with 2 different types of diagnostic machines but no joy.
I have a 1.4 16v 206 quicksilver. Any other ideas welcome?? I'm not up for going down the 307 ECU route.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:40 pm |
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You need the ECU recoding
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:43 pm |
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How is that done? It sounds expensive!
Cheers
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:45 pm |
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It will be. You'll have to get the ECU dismantled, EEPROMs read and recoded so that cruise control is in the ECU
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:48 pm |
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Joined: May 24, 2011
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Ahh ok, guess I'll give up on this idea then! Roughly how much would it cost? Is it a 'main dealer' only job?
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:50 pm |
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Would be more aftermarket than main dealer.
Bet your looking £500+
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:07 pm |
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Joined: May 24, 2011
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That's been very helpful! Anybody in need of a cruise control stalk? I paid £40 + p&p, I'd be happy if I could get this back.
Cheers.
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