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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:43 pm |
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wondering if anyone knows if a gearbox from a 1.4hdi would fit in a 1.1 ok? cheers.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:50 pm |
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Might do but the ratios will be all wrong. 2nd gear will be good for about 80mph if fitted to a petrol engine!
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:56 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| Might do but the ratios will be all wrong. 2nd gear will be good for about 80mph if fitted to a petrol engine! |
That sounds fun... 
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:07 pm |
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Take a while to get there without the torque though 
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:15 pm |
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| Dillon wrote: |
| Take a while to get there without the torque though |
it's a 1.1, you might not be able to shift up to 2nd lol
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:07 pm |
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I had a 1.1 106 for a brief spell. Got fed up at 70mph with the car revving at 3500rpm. So one evening i dropped the g/box and fitted a diesel box from a 1.4 TU diesel 106. didn't know if it was going to work but thought it would be worth a try as the ratios seemed ok from a bit of research i did.
It all mounted up fine, took it for a drive and was quite surprised. The gears were taller but not so much that it was impossible to drive (still was able to pull away with a car load  no problems) got to 5th gear and was happy to be driving along at 70mph at 2750rpm .
Of course once you come to a hill the torque of the 1.1 isnt brilliant so obviously I had a change down but still i was happy.
Would be better on a 1.4 due to having a bit more oomph than the 1.1 i imagine.
Hope it helps
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:09 pm |
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| southwestchap wrote: |
I had a 1.1 106 for a brief spell. Got fed up at 70mph with the car revving at 3500rpm. So one evening i dropped the g/box and fitted a diesel box from a 1.4 TU diesel 106. didn't know if it was going to work but thought it would be worth a try as the ratios seemed ok from a bit of research i did.
It all mounted up fine, took it for a drive and was quite surprised. The gears were taller but not so much that it was impossible to drive (still was able to pull away with a car load no problems) got to 5th gear and was happy to be driving along at 70mph at 2750rpm .
Of course once you come to a hill the torque of the 1.1 isnt brilliant so obviously I had a change down but still i was happy.
Would be better on a 1.4 due to having a bit more oomph than the 1.1 i imagine.
Hope it helps |
To be honest I'd be definately interested in this if it worked wish my 1.4 would stay at lower revs.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:13 pm |
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A friend has just bought a 1.4 so maybe tempted one weekend to swap it round. Would only take half a day to get the old out and the new in...
Found out that the newer diesel gearboxes from the 106s have a lower ratio 5th gear than the older ones. i.e. ph1 = old type / ph2 new type
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:19 pm |
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| Harry wrote: |
| southwestchap wrote: |
I had a 1.1 106 for a brief spell. Got fed up at 70mph with the car revving at 3500rpm. So one evening i dropped the g/box and fitted a diesel box from a 1.4 TU diesel 106. didn't know if it was going to work but thought it would be worth a try as the ratios seemed ok from a bit of research i did.
It all mounted up fine, took it for a drive and was quite surprised. The gears were taller but not so much that it was impossible to drive (still was able to pull away with a car load no problems) got to 5th gear and was happy to be driving along at 70mph at 2750rpm .
Of course once you come to a hill the torque of the 1.1 isnt brilliant so obviously I had a change down but still i was happy.
Would be better on a 1.4 due to having a bit more oomph than the 1.1 i imagine.
Hope it helps |
To be honest I'd be definately interested in this if it worked wish my 1.4 would stay at lower revs. |
could you not just swap the final drive?
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:28 pm |
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could do but would be one hell of a jump from 4th to 5th.....
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:30 pm |
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Could always build your ideal MA gearbox & put your choice of ratios in.
Plenty to pick from over the years.
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:01 pm |
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thanks for the fed back people. my gearbox at the min is f***ed and i can get my hands on a diesel one so was just wanting to check before i buy it.
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