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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:35 pm |
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| Check the records, think Ford are a little more successful than peugeot. It's not Henrys fault there was a bad driver/mechanic! |
Bad driver? So because the piston rings melt thats bad driving?
No mate thats because they are unreliable engines
Now please educate me on how many old fords there is on the road day compared to old peugeots?
Oh little fact on how good supposedly fords are, one old car pinto or something similar would explode in a rear impact
Ford would not pay 11$ to fix each car, so they put a price tag of £200k per life lost instead cause it was cheaper
Nice
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:45 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| Check the records, think Ford are a little more successful than peugeot. It's not Henrys fault there was a bad driver/mechanic! |
Bad driver? So because the piston rings melt thats bad driving?
No mate thats because they are unreliable engines
Now please educate me on how many old fords there is on the road day compared to old peugeots?
Oh little fact on how good supposedly fords are, one old car pinto or something similar would explode in a rear impact
Ford would not pay 11$ to fix each car, so they put a price tag of £200k per life lost instead cause it was cheaper
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Pick a car any car, Ford escort Mk1 Mk2 mexico/rs? Sierra cosworth, escort cosworth, awesome RS200, not forgetting the Mustang. Add to that the affordable stuff like the XR's and i think that makes Peugeots moody little offering of 205 GTI and 106 Rallye fade into insignificance.
Let me guess the car was a good few years old when the ring melted? Oh and what was the disigned horsepower of the engine.....
Dont get me wrong Fords are shocking, but only at worse, as shocking as peugeot.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:49 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's 
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:53 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's |
Lol they might not rust as much but bits fall off just as quick The 206 in the garage is no more sturdy than the escort i had years ago.
Whats the point in judging a manufacturer on a car thats 10 years old or more! christ it should have been scrapped years back! Ford make better driving cars than Peugeot, it's just a fact.
Although it is interesting that such a 'unreliable' engine is being used in modified cars. Where do they use peugeot engines then?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:55 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| Check the records, think Ford are a little more successful than peugeot. It's not Henrys fault there was a bad driver/mechanic! |
Bad driver? So because the piston rings melt thats bad driving?
No mate thats because they are unreliable engines
Now please educate me on how many old fords there is on the road day compared to old peugeots?
Oh little fact on how good supposedly fords are, one old car pinto or something similar would explode in a rear impact
Ford would not pay 11$ to fix each car, so they put a price tag of £200k per life lost instead cause it was cheaper
Nice |
Pick a car any car, Ford escort Mk1 Mk2 mexico/rs? Sierra cosworth, escort cosworth, awesome RS200, not forgetting the Mustang. Add to that the affordable stuff like the XR's and i think that makes Peugeots moody little offering of 205 GTI and 106 Rallye fade into insignificance.
Let me guess the car was a good few years old when the ring melted? Oh and what was the disigned horsepower of the engine.....
Dont get me wrong Fords are shocking, but only at worse, as shocking as peugeot. |
That havent had any welding work done
None
Ermm no, 2 events after rebuild and gearbox was the event before
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:56 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's |
Lol they might not rust as much but bits fall off just as quick The 206 in the garage is no more sturdy than the escort i had years ago.
Whats the point in judging a manufacturer on a car thats 10 years old or more! christ it should have been scrapped years back! Ford make better driving cars than Peugeot, it's just a fact.
Although it is interesting that such a 'unreliable' engine is being used in modified cars. Where do they use peugeot engines then? |
4x4 as standard maybe?
And no they have not improved, they are still rotting 55 plate focus for a good example has already got rotting rear arches
They are s**t
Simple
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The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
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144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:57 pm |
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Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| Check the records, think Ford are a little more successful than peugeot. It's not Henrys fault there was a bad driver/mechanic! |
Bad driver? So because the piston rings melt thats bad driving?
No mate thats because they are unreliable engines
Now please educate me on how many old fords there is on the road day compared to old peugeots?
Oh little fact on how good supposedly fords are, one old car pinto or something similar would explode in a rear impact
Ford would not pay 11$ to fix each car, so they put a price tag of £200k per life lost instead cause it was cheaper
Nice |
Pick a car any car, Ford escort Mk1 Mk2 mexico/rs? Sierra cosworth, escort cosworth, awesome RS200, not forgetting the Mustang. Add to that the affordable stuff like the XR's and i think that makes Peugeots moody little offering of 205 GTI and 106 Rallye fade into insignificance.
Let me guess the car was a good few years old when the ring melted? Oh and what was the disigned horsepower of the engine.....
Dont get me wrong Fords are shocking, but only at worse, as shocking as peugeot. |
That havent had any welding work done
None
Ermm no, 2 events after rebuild and gearbox was the event before |
OOOOh so it was a new ford engine and gearbox that was in it.....hang on no, it was a rebuilt one. Any clown could have played with it. The only time you can judge a car is if it's original. Once you mess around with it then anything could happen.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:59 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's |
Lol they might not rust as much but bits fall off just as quick The 206 in the garage is no more sturdy than the escort i had years ago.
Whats the point in judging a manufacturer on a car thats 10 years old or more! christ it should have been scrapped years back! Ford make better driving cars than Peugeot, it's just a fact.
Although it is interesting that such a 'unreliable' engine is being used in modified cars. Where do they use peugeot engines then? |
4x4 as standard maybe?
And no they have not improved, they are still rotting 55 plate focus for a good example has already got rotting rear arches
They are s**t
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If the only good thing you have to say about peugeots is they dont rot....well that kind of ends the argument really doesnt it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:00 pm |
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for god sake is this another thread like 138Gti vs 180Gti? lol
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:03 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's |
Lol they might not rust as much but bits fall off just as quick The 206 in the garage is no more sturdy than the escort i had years ago.
Whats the point in judging a manufacturer on a car thats 10 years old or more! christ it should have been scrapped years back! Ford make better driving cars than Peugeot, it's just a fact.
Although it is interesting that such a 'unreliable' engine is being used in modified cars. Where do they use peugeot engines then? |
4x4 as standard maybe?
And no they have not improved, they are still rotting 55 plate focus for a good example has already got rotting rear arches
They are s**t
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If the only good thing you have to say about peugeots is they dont rot....well that kind of ends the argument really doesnt it. |
I take it you own a ford? 
TU and XU engines never fail unlike zetecs, bottom end rattles are so nice nowadays
So we got:
Rot
Engine Failure
s**t interior to?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:11 pm |
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Opinions are like a*******s - everyone has one and we don't really care tbh.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:13 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
Fords rot like a pig, something french cars dont do |
Ford dont bother with galvanizing.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen worked out how to stop car's rusting away back in the 1980's |
Lol they might not rust as much but bits fall off just as quick The 206 in the garage is no more sturdy than the escort i had years ago.
Whats the point in judging a manufacturer on a car thats 10 years old or more! christ it should have been scrapped years back! Ford make better driving cars than Peugeot, it's just a fact.
Although it is interesting that such a 'unreliable' engine is being used in modified cars. Where do they use peugeot engines then? |
4x4 as standard maybe?
And no they have not improved, they are still rotting 55 plate focus for a good example has already got rotting rear arches
They are s**t
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If the only good thing you have to say about peugeots is they dont rot....well that kind of ends the argument really doesnt it. |
Terry dolphin did the rebuild
He helped build the engines for the WRC cars, so not some tit like you
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The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
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144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
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For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:39 pm |
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Wrong on pretty much every count there. I dont own a Ford but unlike a certain individual i'm not single minded enough not to be able to appreciate and evaluate things i don't have! Of course what i have said is only opinion, however it is an opinion shared by many, Just check the major motoring magazines, i'm sure you will see they rate fords pretty highly. In fact just compare how many fords have won car of the year compared to peugeot. Like i have said, it's only my opinion....oh, no wait it's pretty much the entire motoring press' opinion too.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:24 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| Like i have said, it's only my opinion....oh, no wait it's pretty much the entire motoring press' opinion too. |
Want to go stick your d**k up an escorts tail pipe already. f*****g hell your bumming them a bit.
Ford has built some of the most common engines in the world, the reason you see them is because they are good engines. Cosworths arn't ford now are they really, Cosworth is its own entity, it just so happened to be put in a few ford's and now scooby are following that. Kent and Pinto engines are around in the hundred thousands still and they are f*****g horse and cart technology era.
The cars however were a bit w**k back in the day, only ever had 2 uses. Showing off before it turned into metal cancer, and motorsport. Some iconic stuff though.
Peugeot however havn't gone far of the mark. Successful in both the consumer and motorsport market, with some iconic cars as well.
Now, can we just agree that both peugeot and ford are s**te and we should have all stuck to pedal bikes.
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