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imjeeves

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:59 am

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

The car just passed its MOT Smile

and is now going to the scruitineer tonight to see if I can get the MSA log book for the car.

Testing this saturday which will be exciting, first time on the gravel for 6 months / end of last season. Then the first event for the car will be the Granite City rally in just over a week starting from Aberdeen.

First British Championship round will be the Pirelli on the 30th in Carlisle cant wait. Its all coming together now!


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

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macj

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:29 pm

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex

Heres wishing you the very best of luck mate...

Razpulsedj

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:28 pm

Joined: Feb 12, 2010
Posts: 4308
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Location: Partying with the Info Shufflers

What a great read and one hell of a project! Hope all went well with getting the book and all the best with the rest of the project

Edward

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:36 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

200lb ft of torque sounds a little optimistic...100lb ft / litre is virtually unheard of.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

imjeeves

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:43 am

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

That's what it was. I will upload the rolling road graph later. It has the vvt system remember which gives torque over the gti engine


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

imjeeves

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:23 pm

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

I don't believe it, the car let me down again today.

Took the car off the trailer and drove once fairly slowly through the stage to see what it was like. Went to tweek a few things and the car started ok. Waiting in the queue to start the first run and the car cuts out. It then starts but cuts out almost instantly.

Looked over everything and I think the water pump has just packed in. The top of the radiator is boiling hot as well as the top heater hose. The bottom hose and bottom, of the radiator is freezing. When I take the water hose off the radiator and crank no water comes out.

It must be that as it is the only thing that moves the water around. The thermostat is open.

Totally gutted. I now have 1 week to get it sorted before the event. This is going to be so tight for time.

On the plus side it passed it Log book and MOT on Friday. However it needs a little bit of work to the seams on the cage as the guy that fitted it didn't quite do that right Sad

Oh and the car is now named Christine as we all recon it is haunted. Smile


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

macj

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:07 am

Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex

They always moan about the cage welding.... its normal Make sure the cooling system has not got an air lock in it.... I had to bleed mine several times with the re-designed radiator set-up. That prevents the coolant circulating

simpsonrc

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:52 am

Joined: Jul 28, 2010
Posts: 133
Trade Rating: 0
Location: coventry

its looking good! just woundering how you sorted out the cam signal so the dta could read it? Also what did you set the degres to for the crank sensor (BTDC), or could you possibley send me a basemap to get mine up and running befor i get it maped. Any help much appreciated thanks steve.

Edward

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:07 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage

Can you do data logging with your ECU? I found this feature with the Omex 600 to be very helpful. Will show the values every sensor is reading so you can see which aren't working.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

imjeeves

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:46 am

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

Just managed to work out the throttle sensor is giving a bad reading. So when i put my foot on the throttle it will open the throttle bodies but the injectors will not put in more fuel. Thats why its cutting out!

I didnt set up the cam sensor as it was the rolling road that did all that. The BTDC setup is done by you with the dta setup. Use the Toyota map for the basemap. I dont have a basemap for the pug just the full rolling roaded map.


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

Seabook

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:26 pm

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 10151
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i finally understand why they charge so much on ITB conversion now.... very nice thread btw, hope you can get this sorted very soon


	Car Sold....

imjeeves

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:14 am

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

Thanks for your comments guys. The car has been very tricky to build especially since I bought it in parts. It took twice as long to work out how to put it all back together and what bit goes where.

I stripped back all the throttle wiring last night and checked all the joins. One soldered joint was uncovered so I taped that all up. Started the car and it was missfiring. I soon remembered that I had unplugged the cam sensor DOH.

Started it again and it was running perfectly. I still think I will change the throttle position sensor as a precaution. Its a big event this weekend so I dont want the car acting up again!

Driving it "slowly" round the course on sat was a big eye opener for me. I could not beliveve how quick the wee car was on gravel. I cant wait to the weekend now. Im like a little boy at christmas Smile


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

kingdom200

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:19 pm

Joined: Feb 15, 2010
Posts: 1848
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Leamington Spa

awesome read buddy...... just done the start to finish read!


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imjeeves

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:38 am

Joined: Feb 09, 2010
Posts: 405
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Glasgow / Welling

Well just back from the Granite City Rally which was the first event in the new car.

Had a nightmare on Friday when we discovered that the belt was a tooth out! Had to change the belt on the firday night finishing about 3.00am on saturday.

There was a lot of interest in the car at the start and I was really excited to drive it for the first time in the stages.

Off the startline of the first stage the car spun the wheels all the way up to third gear! Smile

Was flying through the first couple of corners until I heard the exhaust get really loud. Though nothing of it until BANG. The engine let go about a mile into the stage.

Turn out the oil cooler I bought from Spooks motorsport. (Not afraid to say it since its cost me an engine) Had a dodgy hose crimp. When in the stage the pipe joint burst and spewed all the oil of the engine. I dont think it will have lasted too much longer after that reving at 7500rpm Sad

So now I need a new 180 engine sadly and many more hours in the garage

GUTTED!


	206 180 rally car in progress. I may not be perfect but there are parts of me that are f£%$ing brilliant

Schumi

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:25 am

Joined: Feb 08, 2010
Posts: 901
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Istanbul / Turkey

I cant believe that. I'm really sorry to hear that. Didnt you think rebuild engine with wösneer 12.5 forged pistons over than buying complete engine.


	2005 206 RC RED Bilstein B14 Coilover / Brembo 4 Pot Front 330x28 - Rear 325x8 / Quaife ATB Limited Slip Diff / Janspeed Catback Lot's of CNC machined customs pars.

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