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Hi all my lovely amazingly s**te 206 gti 180 has broken again i have just replaced top mount bearings drop links and track rod ends and now the bloody wishbones have gone and at dealer prices it anit cheap
what is the easiest way to change the wish bones
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Last edited by LilLew on Wed May 25, 2011 6:52 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:48 am |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:55 am |
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be carefull with wishbones the non OEM ones can be abit hit and miss, allot cheaper yes but can fail quite quick, one of mine went after 2 months driving. Its a b***h of a job but can be done in a couple of hours DIY. Not sure about the 180 but image there the same just a bit beefer.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:56 am |
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it was somethingstupid like 89 per side and i dont know if this is cheap crap tho because both for £75
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:57 am |
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Tbh if they're cheap it's probably for a reason..
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:59 am |
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| LilLew wrote: |
| it was somethingstupid like 89 per side and i dont know if this is cheap crap tho because both for £75 |
that price sounds alright if fitted and there proper OEM parts
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:01 am |
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that is just pug providing the parts i have to fit them
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:05 am |
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| LilLew wrote: |
| that is just pug providing the parts i have to fit them |
yeah £90 a side is about right for proper ones, i couldent afford that so have just stuck with some £30 one for driver side, its been on about 3 weeks now and seems ok at the moment, the passenger side £30 one has laste around 6month and is ok still.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:13 am |
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does anyone know the easiest way to fit these
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:11 am |
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| does anyone know the easiest way to fit these |
Car up on stands and chocked, wheels off, unbolt the balljoint socket at the rear of the hub, split the balljoint, undo the 2 bolts on the subframe, pull the wishbone towards you and rotate towards the back of the car..
Refitting is pretty much the reverse, push the new wishbone into place, sometimes the rear bolt wont line up straight away so get the front one lined up and pop a bolt through the subframe to hold it into place and then rotate the wishbone towards the front of the car until the rear bolt holes line up too, put the bolts in and tighten them to the correct tourqe.
Use a breaker bar to lower the wishbone down low enough to pop the balljoint back into it's holder on the hub, pop the bolt back in, check everything is nice and tight, refit wheel and lower the car back down.
The hardest part is probably getting the balljoint back in, as this can sometimes be a PITA! Clean everything up while you have the chance and it's off the car, also clean the balljoint holding hole on the hub it'll make getting the balljoint back in there alot easier!
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| The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car | |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:16 am |
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| Ste206 wrote: |
| LilLew wrote: |
| does anyone know the easiest way to fit these |
Car up on stands and chocked, wheels off, unbolt the balljoint socket at the rear of the hub, split the balljoint, undo the 2 bolts on the subframe, pull the wishbone towards you and rotate towards the back of the car..
Refitting is pretty much the reverse, push the new wishbone into place, sometimes the rear bolt wont line up straight away so get the front one lined up and pop a bolt through the subframe to hold it into place and then rotate the wishbone towards the front of the car until the rear bolt holes line up too, put the bolts in and tighten them to the correct tourqe.
Use a breaker bar to lower the wishbone down low enough to pop the balljoint back into it's holder on the hub, pop the bolt back in, check everything is nice and tight, refit wheel and lower the car back down.
The hardest part is probably getting the balljoint back in, as this can sometimes be a PITA! Clean everything up while you have the chance and it's off the car, also clean the balljoint holding hole on the hub it'll make getting the balljoint back in there alot easier! |
i know splitting the ball joint can be a nightmare but nuttin a ball joint splitter and a MASSIVE hammer wont sort out i knew it was a simple enought job was just seeing if there was and hidden tips
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:55 am |
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I'll post some pictures later to show how to do the job.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:41 am |
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Joined: Jan 24, 2010
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Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info Code
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| LilLew wrote: |
| Ste206 wrote: |
| LilLew wrote: |
| does anyone know the easiest way to fit these |
Car up on stands and chocked, wheels off, unbolt the balljoint socket at the rear of the hub, split the balljoint, undo the 2 bolts on the subframe, pull the wishbone towards you and rotate towards the back of the car..
Refitting is pretty much the reverse, push the new wishbone into place, sometimes the rear bolt wont line up straight away so get the front one lined up and pop a bolt through the subframe to hold it into place and then rotate the wishbone towards the front of the car until the rear bolt holes line up too, put the bolts in and tighten them to the correct tourqe.
Use a breaker bar to lower the wishbone down low enough to pop the balljoint back into it's holder on the hub, pop the bolt back in, check everything is nice and tight, refit wheel and lower the car back down.
The hardest part is probably getting the balljoint back in, as this can sometimes be a PITA! Clean everything up while you have the chance and it's off the car, also clean the balljoint holding hole on the hub it'll make getting the balljoint back in there alot easier! |
i know splitting the ball joint can be a nightmare but nuttin a ball joint splitter and a MASSIVE hammer wont sort out i knew it was a simple enought job was just seeing if there was and hidden tips |
Splitting it isnt too bad, as you say a splitter and a hammer does the trick lol, it's getting them back in, they sometimes don't want to play fair and be effers! lol
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VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car | |
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:16 am |
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| Edward wrote: |
| I'll post some pictures later to show how to do the job. |
There used to be a how to some where im sure.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:50 am |
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i got a pair for 50quid off fleabay, no idea of the quality but guess will find out when its on the road again...
but took me about 25mins a side, and replaced track rods aswell....
pretty easy done aslong as you have a big breaker bar and something to lever the new arms down as theyr a pain in the hoop....
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