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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:35 am |
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Joined: Jul 04, 2011 Posts: 7
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Location: east yorkshire
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Hi Guys
I pretty sure my partners 206 is only running on 2 cylinders at the moment, I perform the test where you allow water to evaporate on a freshly warmed engine, cylinders 1 & 4 seemed very cold. The car has already had a new coil pack, and all the information on the web seems to suggest injector No. 4 is the problem one. Are the injectors wired in series? How do I go about removing the injector and replacing it with a second hand one? Do I simply remove the fuel rail and pull the injector using my hands or do I need to de-pressurize the fuel system first?
Any advice greatly appreciated!
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 6055
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Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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Have you changed the spark plugs? It's fairly common for coil packs to fail on 206s.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:43 am |
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The coil pack has been changed yes, not the spark plugs though but I inspected and gapped them when I changed it and all seemed acceptable.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:44 am |
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Oh sorry, I missed that you had already changed the coil pack. Still on my first coffee.
Injector wise, unbolt the fuel rail & they pull out. Just a case of pushing them back in.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:46 am |
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thanks, I was hoping it was that simple. Do you think its worth buying two injectors as both 1 & 4 cylinders are failing?
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:46 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11520
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Xlinephil wrote: |
The coil pack has been changed yes, not the spark plugs though but I inspected and gapped them when I changed it and all seemed acceptable. |
Not NGK spark plugs I hope
These are a NO NO for a 206
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:00 am |
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This really needs scanning for fault codes.
The engine ecu is smart enough to shut of the fuel injector to a cylinder if the spark plug / coil pack is misfiring on that pot
Cylinder 1 is the gearbox end, PSA Peugeot / Citroen like to do things different
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:29 am |
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MrBSI wrote: |
This really needs scanning for fault codes.
The engine ecu is smart enough to shut of the fuel injector to a cylinder if the spark plug / coil pack is misfiring on that pot
Cylinder 1 is the gearbox end, PSA Peugeot / Citroen like to do things different |
Reading the Original Post it looks like he has the problem with the washer jets leaking down onto 1 and 4, like the problem you spoke about to me.
I am changing my injector either tonight or this coming friday, so maybe i can do a how to and save the world.
Also how bad must her car be running, we cut mine down to 2 and it sounded rough to say the least, hope she isnt driving it still...
Just to make it clear whats said above, cylinder 4 = left as you look from the front, ie the hardest one to get ya hand round due to the engine mount *on a 1.1 anyway*
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:13 am |
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PugJH wrote: |
Also how bad must her car be running, we cut mine down to 2 and it sounded rough to say the least, hope she isnt driving it still...
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It ran like a bag of s**te on just 2 pots
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:48 am |
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i had this problem a week ago, mine was only one cylinder though. this is what mine sounded like
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISlCJVWTgpA
mine was a faulty coilpack.
they also mentioned something about the intake manifold can cause problems which seems like a faulty coilpack.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:48 am |
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Joined: Jul 04, 2011 Posts: 7
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She is still driving, she has no choice as she needs to get around in her job! Thats why I need to fix it asap lol.
Just rang up a scrappy and they say that there are different ones so how do I determine which to order?
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:54 am |
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coil pack ?
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:58 am |
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LeeMaddern wrote: |
coil pack ? |
had a new one fitted, no difference
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:34 am |
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Have you got good compression on all the cylinders?
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:05 am |
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wurlyvalve wrote: |
Have you got good compression on all the cylinders? |
second this advice, do a compression test, can you give a lot of clues as to whats going on.
If you have a fault code reader that can delete codes,remove the injectors so you can see if they are working and also for spray pattern
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