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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:54 am |
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Joined: Jul 03, 2011
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Location: UK
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Ok, looked at the How to on wishbones, and its all pretty straight forward, apart from one thing.........
The centre bolt on the wishbone wont go past the strut/arm to the wheel, hence, I cant get the bugger out.
Has anybody had this out, know how to or know a way?
I dont fancy paying a garage to do the job as I know I can do it, apart from this!
Will removing the ball joint and first bolt allow the centre bolt to twist enough to come out?
GTI 16v, year 2000, 2.0l
, offside
Cheers
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:11 am |
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Joined: Jul 28, 2011
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Location: essex
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in a word yes. 
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:36 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: Teesside
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try jacking the wishbone up slightly .... i seem to recall this cleared abit of space to get the bolt out. had to use a pinch bar to get the hub off the wishbone aswell.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:58 am |
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Pulling the hub off the wishbone is the first job you do. Have some pictures, in order of the work done.
I did a 'How to' once but the website disappeared.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:50 pm |
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brilliant, thanks, I'll have another go tomorrow!
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:06 pm |
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no need to remove the shocker just to do the lower arms, secret is to remove centre hub nut then when the cv joint is removed from the hub (disc side ) you can lift the driveshaft high enough to remove the front bolt for the arm
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:26 pm |
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Where can I get these wishbones ? The bushes look beefed up and stronger than the bushes you get on most wishbones for the 206. I am guessing these are old Peugeot dealer parts. If anyone knows what manufacturer does these please let me know
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:43 pm |
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Or do what some do and take an angle grinder to the wishbone and cut it through between the bolt and lower swivel joint. Leave a very thin strip and a few hits with a hammer will bend and break it on that thin strip. This releases all the tension in the arm that the bushes etc. create and it all comes out much more easily.
The reason not to cut all the way through with the grinder is that the arm can move with the final cut and pinch the grinding disc.
Once you have done this a few times it all gets much easier. the grinding isn't essential but can stop some swearing.
Regards levering down the arm, if you use a 6ft length of bar (I use a scaffold pole) then the weight of the wheel placed on the end of the bar is enough and you don't need an assistant.
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:08 pm |
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Also note that while it is hard to see in the pictures there should be a heat shield on the lower swivel. Lots of cars loose these due to rust but if you have lost yours get new and replace them. The heat from the brakes can cause the lower swivel to fail early.
When re-assembling be very careful. Due to the twisting that the bushes put into the wishbone it can be quite hard to line everything up then, while levering the arm to do that, it is quite easy to pinch and cut the drive shaft boot with the lower swivel pin. If you damage the CV boot the easiest fix is a "stretch boot."
Someone here will tell you the best order to fit the lower swivel and two pivot bush bolts. I haven't done one for a while and my memory isn't what it was. If you do it in the wrong order it is almost impossible and isn't exactly easy done in the right order. If you have wishbones with stiff bushes (some fit Powerflex or similar) it can be a real bugger.
You may also need to find an old flat blade screw driver (short one) and tap it into the gap to slightly spread the bottom swivel lug. Even with the pinch bolt removed these can hold quite tight.
Unless you are going to fit Polybush then genuine Peugeot will probably last the longest of any other supplier. The only other manufacture that I would recommend for these arms is Lemforder £81.60 on EuroCarParts.
Please do NOT buy cheap arms from Fleabay or similar. They will last less than a year and you will be doing the job again.
Finally, as posted by Andy180+ above, you do not need to remove the strut from the hub.
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