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Newbie with mpg problem
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steve-1965
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:42 am Up
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Hi all, new to the forum and have a problem with fuel economy. I bought the car last week, it is a 2003 1.1. I use the car on 13 mile trips to work, half dual carriageway and half normal roads. Putting a tenner in I'm getting approx 30 to the gallon. Air filter was dirty so changed it, any ideas,

Thanks, Steve

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LeeThr
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You have a heavy right foot.... simples Cool
 


gogs_macaulay wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's
Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

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2003 - 406 Coupé 2.2 HDi SE - Hyperion Blue
2000 - 206 2L HDi D-Turbo ECO - Cherry Red
1999 - 306 GTi-6 - Blue (haven't worked out if it's Nile or China yet)
1987 - 205 GTi 1.9 - Graphite Gray

I must be mad.....
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Howey
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Just try giving it a full service and running it on high octane premium fuel for a month and see if it improves Smile
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Hotchy
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I got about 30mpg in my first 1.1 i had. I red lined every single road though... warm or cold Laughing not 1 engine problem to be had in over 70k either, solid we guy so he was Laughing
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Abzynthe
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My mrs only gets that and she has a very well maintained car. Shes not a mad driver either. Its mostly town driving.

So I would say thats about right really.

Just get a bigger engine Razz My 1.6 can do 520 miles on a tank, pure motorway driving Wink

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Drive like a tree hugging coffin dodger & it might improve.
 
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E5GDM wrote:
Drive like a tree hugging coffin dodger & it might improve.

Warning may result in death due to serious boredom .

 


gogs_macaulay wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's
Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

The garage
2003 - 206 GTi 138 - Moonstone Blue
2003 - 406 Coupé 2.2 HDi SE - Hyperion Blue
2000 - 206 2L HDi D-Turbo ECO - Cherry Red
1999 - 306 GTi-6 - Blue (haven't worked out if it's Nile or China yet)
1987 - 205 GTi 1.9 - Graphite Gray

I must be mad.....
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steve-1965 wrote:
Hi all, new to the forum and have a problem with fuel economy. I bought the car last week, it is a 2003 1.1. I use the car on 13 mile trips to work, half dual carriageway and half normal roads. Putting a tenner in I'm getting approx 30 to the gallon. Air filter was dirty so changed it, any ideas,

Thanks, Steve

there's nothing wrong with it, 1.1 is gutless & its trying to lug nearly a ton of 206 along.

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Deckchair5
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With a 1.1 engine it should be easy to obtain 40mpg average and 50mpg or more on a long run
click here for figures of over 1000 1.1 owners<<<

Once you have checked the normal service items, (especially now you cleaned the air filter) then it's best to reset the ECU so it relearns quicker the best set up for the current state. It'll get there in the end but it's a good idea to tell it to "take a fresh look" whenever you change any major engine part that affects economy. That will reset your LTFT (long term fuel trim) and it will find the new best settings

LAMBDA
After that, the most significant effects on fuel economy (besides your right foot) are the lambda sensor - which will fine tune back the fuel used when at steady rpm -so that has a huge effect on economy

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and your MAP sensor which tells the ECU how much air is going in so it adjusts fuel accordingly.

Either one of those giving misinformation and the mpg plummets

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steve-1965
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:50 am Up
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Thanks for the replies, after looking at the mpg figures, mine seems quite low, how do I reset the ecu? Is it just a matter of disconnecting the battery?

Thanks

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Mikey2uk
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I would say your getting about the right sort of MPG with the driving your doing to be honest. Your only doing short journeys so the engine will only just be getting up to temp when you come to your work place and the same on the way home.

The MPG figure shown are done under lab conditions and dont really reflect on the true world.

When was the last time you gave it a good service? Give it a good service and see if that improves things.

 
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Deckchair5
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:15 am Up
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Mikey2uk wrote:

The MPG figure shown are done under lab conditions and dont really reflect on the true world
No, those are real owners figures and it's an average consumption ie for varied driving conditions. The manufacturer's figures seem to be done downhill with a wind behind you Very Happy


how do I reset the ecu? Is it just a matter of disconnecting the battery?
Yes that'll do it if you disconnect for an hour or so

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Mattie-RS
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Obv this guy knows more than us Rolling Eyes
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Mattie-RS wrote:
Obv this guy knows more than us Rolling Eyes

Exactly Wink

TU1 lump pulling nearly a ton of weight along, you aint gonna get good mpg figures from it unless driven like a eco hippy Laughing

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