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Tiffany - 138 Race Car Project
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Ape
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:33 am Up
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Could have chosen better pads than that!

Yup

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Ape wrote:
Seb wrote:
Could have chosen better pads than that!

Yup

Well i could technically change the order to yellow stuff

As the complete set to me is £64 for red and £69 for yellow (front + rear), which aint bad (got to love massive discount) Laughing

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After going to Ferodo from EBC, I'd never go back.

Forget the Redstuff, Yellowstuff, Bluestuff.

If it's going for Fast Road use and Heavy Track use, then DS3000's are the pad you want. They eat discs, but they'll withstand 2, 8min 50secs, 12.9mile laps of the Nurburgring without fading, along with numerous laps around Silverstone, Castle Coombe etc etc.

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Might be an upgrade for when i get better front calipers

As the GTi calipers wont stay for life, but they will do

Ideas on price wise?

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Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads.
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Oh Fooook yeh Laughing

Its standard Laughing

The fog is chrome, with a chrome bulb that flashes red Smile

Yeah, that's illegal. You could probably get away with it outside of an MOT though

Although, my indicators are silvertec, so I may be wrong

Hows it illegal? If it flashes red tit Rolling Eyes Laughing

Legally, you have to have a red tinted bulb, a clear bulb that flashes red won't be allowed at MOT. Not sure on silvertec though, since my indicators passed under clear glass

Just thought id share that I have a clear rear fog, with a clear LED bulb that is red when turned on. I passed my MOT Wink

it doesnt matter about the colour of the lense or bulb! aslong as red light it emitted from the rear it will pass. so clear lense and red bulb=pass, clear bulb and red lense=pass, clear lense and led's=pass aslong as red light is emitted!

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Seb wrote:
Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads.

This.

I pay about £130 +VAT for DS3000 (Brembo Fitment for 330mm disc iirc)

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Seb wrote:
Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads.

But a better brake setup with better pads will out perform a standard set of calipers

I know that they will be substantial for the time being, but with the added weight of a V6 i would prefer a slightly bigger surface area covered on a slightly larger disc

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In that case, a decent set of 4pots, on a reasonable size disc (i.e so you can still get 15's / 16's on, which keeps the weight of the wheels and brakes down too), is better than going for a single piston caliper with bigger dinner plates.
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Addaz wrote:

But a better brake setup with better pads will out perform a standard set of calipers

I know that they will be substantial for the time being, but with the added weight of a V6 i would prefer a slightly bigger surface area covered on a slightly larger disc

With a standard setup you will have the same 'stopping force' with good discs and pads as you will with the biggest brakes you can find, because when you actually get good discs and pads, the next link is how good the tyres are, and there is a limit to that...

If you stamp your foot to the floor, and the wheels lock up, then just before that is your best braking force.

The test will come with how long the standard brakes can cope with the heat produced, which with a decent setup and some fresh fluid, should be quite a while.

I wouldn't suggest throwing on massive brakes at the front just because you've been told it's the best thing to do, it may seriously throw the balance of the car off. Better to experiment with the standard setup first to find the best ratio of front to rear braking force. If you're finding the front is locking up before the rear, put harsher pads on the rear, for instance.

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Thanks for the advice bud

But i will be replacing the lines with stainless, brake bias valve and filling with dot 5.1, to have adjustment and a slightly better boiling point

The tyres im unsure what go with, as im yet to have a set of wheels Laughing

Being a track day i wont be out for long, so fading wont occur (hopefully) but if i need to replace them every 4 events or so. So be it, they are cheap as bud

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toyo poxy...... decent pads on decent quality discs, if you can lock the brakes you dont need to upgrade. If you wanted to go for Brembo conversion and 180 discs then you will need to consider the idea of over-braking.... the bias valve will help you spread the load a little. Get a little more effort on the rear will help you in general. "lift off oversteer".... a lovely animal with rear bias Wink
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He needs to learn how to drive first guys Rolling On The Floor Laughing Rolling On The Floor Laughing <3
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If you're not bothered about price, v70a... they are honestly better than R888s or A048s

If money is a concern, KU39's are an amazing track tyre for being a standard asymmetric off the shelf one.

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