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 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:25 am |
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Joined: Nov 15, 2011
Posts: 149
Trade Rating: +2
Location: East Kent
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Sorry but from my view its different if a car is still using its immobilser system stick an ECU on it that had been unlocked in the way the 106 ones are done will not allow it to work on a car that hadnt been given the same treatment. Also worth noting that everytime I sell an Ecu that has been unlocked in this manner I make them fully aware that doing this renders the immobilser obsolete
as for selling them complete I did state that this was an option and would do so
also if you care to read the first post I was actually asking for advice on how the system works on a 206
its clear to me the only way to sell a 206 ECU is complete with the BSI and keys and I assume the transponder unit which I now need to identify.
Basically the original point to the post was to ascertain if ECU's can be unlocked in the same way as 106 but clearly not so to sell the ECU i will need to sell a complete kit as in locks BSI and transponder
that is merely what I wanted to gain
It seems to me from the feedback I am getting that trade dealers are not welcome on this forum so I will bid you all farewell and thank the couple of helpful posts I received and messages but I dont need the agro I was simple trying to help bothh sides as I have done for 4 years on the Saxo and 106 clubs
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:43 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011
Posts: 6526
Trade Rating: +10
Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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Removing your signiture about being a breaker doesn't fill me with confidence about your honesty. Even your introduce yourself has been edited and now says nothing about you. The mods should just delete your account before you get the chance to start selling.
If you want to break 206s, buy a manual so you know what everything is, rather than asking people who have the knowledge for free advice. If your a legitimate business, the manual would be tax deductable.
I am old school too when it come to engines, but buying the right equipment ie a manual, I am able to do jobs on a 206 and help others out with advice when they really need it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:55 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2949
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Athens, Greece
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| deks wrote: |
| Sorry but from my view its different if a car is still using its immobilser system stick an ECU on it that had been unlocked in the way the 106 ones are done will not allow it to work on a car that hadnt been given the same treatment. |
Really? Like the steering lock will then secure it?
A switch can easily be added so you don't even have to force the ignition/starter circuit.
| deks wrote: |
| It seems to me from the feedback I am getting that trade dealers are not welcome on this forum so I will bid you all farewell and thank the couple of helpful posts I received and messages but I dont need the agro I was simple trying to help bothh sides as I have done for 4 years on the Saxo and 106 clubs |
My deepest sympathies go to you but I did not see any other forum member discussing these issues with you.
It was only mentioned that a post count of 50+ was required before any selling can take place.
Perhaps you would consider the info provided on this thread to your advantage, as I'm sure you want to make sure your services are not abused. This is not at all a personal issue.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:05 am |
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Joined: Nov 15, 2011
Posts: 149
Trade Rating: +2
Location: East Kent
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| macca1411 wrote: |
Removing your signiture about being a breaker doesn't fill me with confidence about your honesty. Even your introduce yourself has been edited and now says nothing about you. The mods should just delete your account before you get the chance to start selling.
If you want to break 206s, buy a manual so you know what everything is, rather than asking people who have the knowledge for free advice. If your a legitimate business, the manual would be tax deductable.
I am old school too when it come to engines, but buying the right equipment ie a manual, I am able to do jobs on a 206 and help others out with advice when they really need it. |
A manual is an option but in the past have found others knowledge far more helpful besides a manula doesnt give the inside info that forums normally provide,
I edited my signature as I have asked the mods to delete my account as it seems to me new traders are not welcome as for my genuine ness try checking out deks36 on sax p 106 oc and ebay my rep speaks for itself
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:20 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 3666
Trade Rating: +59
Location: Scotland
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V9977, away and have words with yourself.
There is more illegal activity on this forum than you can even think of. Selling unlocked ECU's isn't exactly high up on the list, if it can even be proven to be illegal. I'm sure no-one had even though about using an unlocked ECU to steal a car until you had mentioned it and posted it on a public forum. Well done you.
If you feel so strongly about the matter, I suggest joining 306gti6.com, saxperience and 106owners. There are plenty of people punting unlocked ECU's there. Voice your concerns there, I'm sure you will receive a flaming in due course.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:59 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2949
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Athens, Greece
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| G. wrote: |
V9977, away and have words with yourself.
There is more illegal activity on this forum than you can even think of. |
Where?
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I'm sure no-one had even though about using an unlocked ECU to steal a car until you had mentioned it and posted it on a public forum. Well done you.
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It's much better to be informed than ignorant.
Then you can take steps accordingly and I said from the start this thread needs deleting, or cleaning up at least.
(it still does imho)
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If you feel so strongly about the matter, I suggest joining 306gti6.com, saxperience and 106owners. There are plenty of people punting unlocked ECU's there. Voice your concerns there, I'm sure you will receive a flaming in due course. |
I have no interest in joining those forums tbh, let alone one for Saxo. 
If you want unlocked ECU sold at this forum too, that is your buisness entirely. I think most members would not?
I stand fully by what I said, and take note how the OP made a quick exit once they realised
they weren't getting what they're after.
| deks wrote: |
| I edited my signature as I have asked the mods to delete my account as it seems to me new traders are not welcome |
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:32 am |
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Joined: Nov 15, 2011
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Location: East Kent
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| V9977 wrote: |
I stand fully by what I said, and take note how the OP made a quick exit once they realised
they weren't getting what they're after.
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get what I am after.!!!! I asked for some advice and nothing more.
I have not advertised anything for sale and nor would I have until I had built a reputation for being reliable and honest as I have done on the other forums of which I am a member but clearly some people on here have no need for traders as imo opinion they seem to be not welcomed this is why I asked for my account to be deleted as its pointless trying to be involved in a forum where you are made to feel unwelcome.
For the record I have always traded above board and legitimately hence why I posted on joining that I was a trader,
As i said from the start I am new to 206's i can take a car apart easily enough but dont have the full technical knowledge yet to be able to advise customers on some issues also I do not want to supply something that is wrong so by learning I can avoid this as in no point supplying and ECU without the BSI and lock set as it wont work .
I also looked to see if it was a requirement to pay for membership as a trader but could find nothing
I have had a couple of positive messages but it seem the majority don't welcome traders, I dont feel the need to spend my time justifying my business or how I work and therefore decided to step away
I agree this thread does now need deleting as someone made a statement for all thieves to see though it wqont work but they will do a lot of damage trying
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Last edited by deks on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:50 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:35 am |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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Good old info....p**sing people off as usual
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:38 am |
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| V9977 wrote: |
NO.
Unlocked ECU = skeleton key to steal ANY 206.
Simply smash window (not even needed actualy),
Open bonnet
Plug-in unlocked ECU and you're off.
It would be irresponsible to say the least to be selling such ECU's and
many cars have been stolen exactly because of this.
This post is clearly against forum and site rules regarding illegal activities and should be deleted and thread starter (details noted) warned. |
Why would anyone ever swap an ECU to steal a 206???
Thats the most stupid thing i've ever heard.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:46 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2949
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Athens, Greece
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| deks wrote: |
| I agree this thread does now need deleting as someone made a statement for all thieves to see though it wqont work but they will do a lot of damage trying |
"Thieves" have known this for ages the world over.
Let's be honest, you didn't expect to start a thread like this in your first few posts as a member here,
and then simply say you want to be part of the site as a trader.
I can accept the intentions are good but the possibility of unintended outcome is fairly obvious.
I fully respect your buisness and past experience, but have every right to voice my concerns just as Big_Rich180 does.
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:09 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 5574
Trade Rating: +11
Location: UK
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the answer to the OP's questions is just No. Not sure why a big deal needs to be made out of it..
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:28 am |
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Joined: Sep 21, 2011
Posts: 317
Trade Rating: 0
Location: UK
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V9977 - should we ban DIY shops from selling hammers too????
Cars have moving parts, these wear out so there is always going to be a need for spares, etc. A community consists of a wide variety of people. Some of these can afford to buy new parts or expensively-priced items from other retail outlets, others might not have so much space cash and might want to try secondhand and would welcome as much choice as possible. A wider part of the community still, would be people like deks, who's trade is selling parts.
It would be daft to unnecessarily restrict traders from the site. There's reasonable arguments for things like targeted/relevant adverts, a trader's category (maybe they pay a little for this), etc etc. But it must be fair. V9977's posts have been nothing but hostile, towards the new member.
I, for one, welcome deks to the site and hope that he will see that it is a vocal minority, not a majority, who are unwelcoming; and therefore stick around. No doubt some disagree, if that's the case I suggest they come up with a better way of integrating ALL parts of a community and make suggestions, and see if the admins take them up on it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:51 am |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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Trade Rating: +2
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V9977 - should we ban DIY shops from selling hammers too????
Cars have moving parts, these wear out so there is always going to be a need for spares, etc. A community consists of a wide variety of people. Some of these can afford to buy new parts or expensively-priced items from other retail outlets, others might not have so much space cash and might want to try secondhand and would welcome as much choice as possible. A wider part of the community still, would be people like deks, who's trade is selling parts.
It would be daft to unnecessarily restrict traders from the site. There's reasonable arguments for things like targeted/relevant adverts, a trader's category (maybe they pay a little for this), etc etc. But it must be fair. V9977's posts have been nothing but hostile, towards the new member.
I, for one, welcome deks to the site and hope that he will see that it is a vocal minority, not a majority, who are unwelcoming; and therefore stick around. No doubt some disagree, if that's the case I suggest they come up with a better way of integrating ALL parts of a community and make suggestions, and see if the admins take them up on it. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:04 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
Posts: 2949
Trade Rating: +6
Location: Athens, Greece
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| paul_c wrote: |
V9977 - should we ban DIY shops from selling hammers too????
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Yes please.
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| V9977's posts have been nothing but hostile, towards the new member. |
1) I've been on here long enough for people to know I'm not hostile even in the most heated topics.
2) I would have no reason to take issue with a trader or anyone else for that matter.
3) Violating the car's in-built security design (even if basic) is not my idea of 'bits and pieces that wear in the normal life of a car.'
If someone was asking for directions to obtain say a lock-pick set for a 206, would you just say "sure mate, give these chaps a call"?
Anyway, I think it's all in the thread now. No-point me going on about it as I know when to shut-up.
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:19 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010
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Its not that difficult & doesnt take long to drive any 206 away protected by the standard security systems without even opening the bonnet IF you know what your doing 
Its easily possible to be done & before anyone asks im not gonna post how its done on a public forum.
Unlocked ecu wouldnt make a blind bit of difference, there easy enough to get from many sources in the UK, 206's are not really worth stealing these days due to there low value.
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