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 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:44 pm |
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i always through they are developed by PSA. but someone told me they are actually developed by lotus?
any though?
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:46 pm |
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Lotus seem to stick their noses into everyone's business tbf.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:51 pm |
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Lotus involvement if true doesn't mean anything special.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:06 pm |
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Thats wrong. Only GTI180 cylinder head is developed over EW12 VVT head by Mecachrome (Formula 1 engine company).
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:13 pm |
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so the VVT wasn't bought from toyota either?
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:46 pm |
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Lotus help develop the EW10J4S
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:38 am |
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I also heard the cylinder head design was by mecachrome.
Apart from this I thought it was all developed by Peugeot Sport.
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:58 am |
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No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
They gave the whole engine and asked for lotus to give the car 180hp. They changed the bottom end design, bigger valves and added the VVT system from their Toyota owners.
They also fitted a equal length / balance exhaust and air intake. Giving the around 180 bhp.
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:00 am |
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No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
They gave the whole engine and asked for lotus to give the car 180hp. They changed the bottom end design, bigger valves and added the VVT system from their Toyota owners.
They also fitted a equal length / balance exhaust and air intake. Giving the around 180 bhp. |
No-one ever claimed it to be 180bhp
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:05 am |
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| imjeeves wrote: |
No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
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Thats all those years of F1 experience showing again.
Was pretty funny trying to guess which lap a McLaren Peugeot would blow up back in 94 
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:36 am |
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| imjeeves wrote: |
No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
They gave the whole engine and asked for lotus to give the car 180hp. They changed the bottom end design, bigger valves and added the VVT system from their Toyota owners.
They also fitted a equal length / balance exhaust and air intake. Giving the around 180 bhp. |
Toyota never owned lotus. Proton do.
They just have an engine supply deal with toyota.
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:42 am |
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Lee
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: EW10 engine
imjeeves wrote:
No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
They gave the whole engine and asked for lotus to give the car 180hp. They changed the bottom end design, bigger valves and added the VVT system from their Toyota owners.
They also fitted a equal length / balance exhaust and air intake. Giving the around 180 bhp.
No-one ever claimed it to be 180bhp |
Peugeot claimed it: www.peugeotperformance..._large.jpg
Hense the name 180!
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:19 am |
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| imjeeves wrote: |
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Lee
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: EW10 engine
imjeeves wrote:
No Peugeot sport couldnt do it.
The way I head it was that Peugeot could not get the claimed 180bhp from gti engine. They kept blowing up.
They gave the whole engine and asked for lotus to give the car 180hp. They changed the bottom end design, bigger valves and added the VVT system from their Toyota owners.
They also fitted a equal length / balance exhaust and air intake. Giving the around 180 bhp.
No-one ever claimed it to be 180bhp |
Peugeot claimed it: www.peugeotperformance..._large.jpg
Hense the name 180! |
It is 177bhp and it was called the GTi180 to rival the Clio 172 
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