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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:48 am |
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Location: Stevenage
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The reason I ask, is that every December for the last 3 years, by battery dies randomly. Last year I put a new battery in, and it still kept dying.
I had the alternator checked and that seems fine, all the electrics work I've done...which is one toggle switch seems fine.
I don't have an amp/sub connected to the battery any more, but every now and then it just wont start, and it's usually after a really cold night.
The rule seems to be, if there's frost on my windows, it will be dead.
Any suggestion on the first thing to test?
EDIT: also, I have no warning lights either.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:49 am |
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What make of battery are you fitting?
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:10 am |
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I'm not sure mate, when I next go out I'll let you know.
Is it wrong for me to think 'a battery is a battery' as long as it fit's etc.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:12 am |
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| devildriverxii wrote: |
Is it wrong for me to think 'a battery is a battery' as long as it fit's etc. |
Very wrong 
A decent battery will come with a 5 year warranty & wont be phased by cold weather if the charging system is in good order.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:30 am |
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Joined: Apr 09, 2011
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Location: letchworth
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mine was doing this the other week, not sure if it was due to the cold but i replaced the battery and put the original headunit back in and all seems fine
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| if it dont scuff the ruff it aint low enuf | |
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:36 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire
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Ive a varta battery that has gone flat about 3 times due to lights being left on etc, charged it back up all times and its still going strong its been on the car for about 6 years now.
Bosch or Varta batteries have a good reputation for a reason.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:37 am |
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| richpowell91 wrote: |
Bosch or Varta batteries have a good reputation for a reason. |
They should do as there both made in the same Varta factory 
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:41 am |
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mine was a varta that kept going flat. might of just been at the end of its life
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| if it dont scuff the ruff it aint low enuf | |
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:42 am |
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Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| richpowell91 wrote: |
Bosch or Varta batteries have a good reputation for a reason. |
They should do as there both made in the same Varta factory |
Ah i didnt know that, out of interest know where halfords batteries are made? Heard good things about them especially if you have a trade card to get them cheaper.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:48 am |
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| richpowell91 wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| richpowell91 wrote: |
Bosch or Varta batteries have a good reputation for a reason. |
They should do as there both made in the same Varta factory |
Ah i didnt know that, out of interest know where halfords batteries are made? Heard good things about them especially if you have a trade card to get them cheaper. |
No idea who makes the Halfords branded batteries, a Bosch on the trade card is cheap enough anyway
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:54 am |
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Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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Its not cold weather draining it. The starter motor has to work harder with the oil being thicker so it draws more current from the battery. Check the cold cranking current rating is sufficient. If not,
Check the battery doesnt have a dying cell. put the multimeter on it and start the car.... or attempt to. If the voltage drops off quickly it needs replacing.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:24 am |
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I only paid about £40 for a Bosch battery last year. Original battery lasted nearly 10 years.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:45 am |
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Joined: Jun 21, 2010
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The more often a battery is drained and needs charging from flat the quicker it will need replacing. i go through a fair few on the bike as i forget to trickle charge. hence why high end cars have trickle charging connections in the boot.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:39 pm |
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I couldn't see the brand as it wasn't written on the top, and it's too dark to get it out now.
I ran a multimeter across it, it showed a 14v when the engine was off, and it went up to 15v when the engine was turned on.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:33 pm |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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maybe you got electrical leakage somewhere,check radio,lights,sometime a naked wire can cause you lot of problems
hot or cold it's not the cause of the dryness,what cause it is the chemical reaction and evaboration which the battery have while the car is running.
what was the reading in the min you started the car??while the ignition is working?
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