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 Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:52 am |
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hi any suggestions of what turbo should i us erm t3?? t3/4  ?? and what injectors i have tu use along with a remap obviosly...10x allot.. 
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:26 am |
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t3 or even t3/4 you will have a huge turbo lag, not good on a low rev diesel
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:09 pm |
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mm tought so as well..... what do you think is the ideal??
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:17 pm |
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what kind of power are we talking about?
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:19 pm |
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im my mind i hve a progect that is 150-160 bhp i know how to go in that area but i tought to climb up a bit more..mabe 180...??...thats why i tought of a larger turbo..
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:30 pm |
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then you have no choices.
plus you need to find a good mapper too.
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:46 pm |
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What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:20 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp? |
bmw 320d are about that ???
you will need vnt turbo ,fmic, upgraded fuel pump maybe from a 320d thats what a few people on tdocuk use, also stage 3 remap, decat, de-egr.
then other mods like bigger breaks free flowing exhaust
best part of 2k is it worth it?
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:38 pm |
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A 20litre engine'd car should be more the 180bhp as standard 
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:22 pm |
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| HDI90 wrote: |
| Edward wrote: |
| What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp? |
bmw 320d are about that ???
you will need vnt turbo ,fmic, upgraded fuel pump maybe from a 320d thats what a few people on tdocuk use, also stage 3 remap, decat, de-egr.
then other mods like bigger breaks free flowing exhaust
best part of 2k is it worth it? |
i will be interested to see how many people there have actually done all those.
in fact apart from the denmark guy i can't think of any; also see a few guys in frances have put a bigger turbo in but the rpm for the peak torque is just too high up.
fitting a VNT turbo on the pug will never be an easy job because most modern turbo run electronic control wastegate; unless you get one custom build
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:59 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp? |
520d run GT17 VNT give 150?
seat leon run 757042-5014S give 170
merc B200 run K03 VTG give 140.
but they are all DOHC 16v, unlike the stupid pug which is sohc 8v; i still think this would have at least 10-20% difference in power
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:13 pm |
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16V shouldn't be necessary on a diesel. 8 valves will flow more than enough at the low revs they run at.
The VW 1.9 engines managed 150bhp as standard.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:08 pm |
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Ive just bought a 120d BMW. 180 BHP standard, would push 230 remapped. For me diesels are mainly about torque and not top end, although mine does move quite quickly.
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:17 pm |
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| Steve206 wrote: |
| Ive just bought a 120d BMW. 180 BHP standard, would push 230 remapped. For me diesels are mainly about torque and not top end, although mine does move quite quickly. |
turbo technology do advance quite a lot these day; you should have buy the twin turbo 120d
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16V shouldn't be necessary on a diesel. 8 valves will flow more than enough at the low revs they run at.
The VW 1.9 engines managed 150bhp as standard. |
could be right, but there is no harm to have more valves and cam
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:04 am |
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yes 10x to you all for your advice wil go to t3 then 
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