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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:18 am |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2010 Posts: 30
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Location: belfast
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first off i'm sorry i haven't been around much this year, i found out in jan i might have epilipsy and i'm not aloud to driveso thats my 206 parked up along with all my bikes and my wife has been driving us around in her 206, this is the one with the fault....
it's been on and off for some time now, it only ever did it for a few seconds but this time it's stopped the car completely.
it's a 1.4 HDI, and the fault is a juddering like the car has cut out for a second, then it's fine again for a few more, then it judders again and normally it clears and the car drives fine ,the engine light comes on but goes out the next time the ignition gets turned on.
but on boxing day on the way to my fathers for xmas dinner it started again, went through the "normal" cycle of juddering and clearing but this time the wife pulled in and the car cut out. i asked her to turn off the ignition and wait, once we turned it on again it was fine but 30 seconds later the same again and it cut out.
we waited about 20 mins for her brother ( a mechanic) to call over to us and he followed us home again were the car drove fine of 10 minutes but bigan juddering the last few feet.
speaking with him he thinks it's fuel related, like the tank pump or maybe something like the throttle sensor but the fact it wouldn't idle makes him think the pump.
now looking on her i've found everything from, injectors, bottom pulleys,seals but no mention of pumps or throttle sensors so what would you guys suggest i say for him to look at first ?
he's going to think i'm trying to teach him to suck eggs but with me being off the road and her 7.5 months pregnant and already having a 2 year old the car is a necessity ......so any help is much appreciated guys.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:30 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2719
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Location: UK
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Easiest thing to do would be fault code read. Does sound fuel related, but could be anything.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:58 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11520
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Steve206 wrote: |
Easiest thing to do would be fault code read. Does sound fuel related, but could be anything. |
Diagnostic light has come = there will be a fault code stored in the memory.
Read the fault codes, they will give you a good idea what to look at.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:05 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 1548
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Location: barnstaple
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my 1.9d did this. just to idle after awhile it had have high revs. was told to clean egr value out. did best i could and no diff so unpluged the little plug and car runs nice and smooth now. try that if the hdi has one
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:09 am |
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1.4 HDI will have an EGR valve, it's not a smart idea to unplug it due to the fact the HDI has a turbocharger fitted
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:13 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 1548
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MrBSI wrote: |
1.4 HDI will have an EGR valve, it's not a smart idea to unplug it due to the fact the HDI has a turbocharger fitted |
ok i didnt know that. thanks for clearing that up
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2010 Posts: 30
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Location: belfast
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He is going to get it plugged in when the garage opens up again but ill tell him about the egr valve and if it's not that at least hell clean it and it'll be one less thing to go wrong
I'll keep you all posted.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:18 am |
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Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 12
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Location: Buckingham
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Royster any news on this mate? My car is doing exactly the same thing. It's a 2003 1.4HDi and has been fine for the 18 months i've had it until recently when it did the 'judder' thing and then cut out a few seconds later. I carried on to work and then drove home and it started juddering and then cutting out every few mins to the point that it is now undriveable. I have taken a lot of the parts off and given them a clean. Got the EGR valve off but i can't see where to clean it as it is all enclosed in a metal casing.
Oh, and the engine management light is on, but I have had the codes read and there are no codes stored...helpful.
Let me know if your trip to the garage brings up anything. Cheers.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:21 am |
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Walberino wrote: |
Oh, and the engine management light is on, but I have had the codes read and there are no codes stored...helpful.
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There will be codes if you use the correct tool to scan it
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:09 am |
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Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 12
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Location: Buckingham
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Oh yes? I guess I will have to take it to an official Pug garage then and get them to scan it. Thanks for the info
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:04 pm |
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Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Posts: 224
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Location: Leyland, Lancashire
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whats wrong with unplugging the egr? mine has been unplugged since i got it and i haven't had any problems?
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:35 pm |
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Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 12
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Location: Buckingham
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I have heard that unplugging the EGR would cause you to get worse MPG and reduce the life of the Turbo and CAT...not sure if this is true though?
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:50 pm |
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Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Posts: 224
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Location: Leyland, Lancashire
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All it does is shove exhaust gasses back into the engine? Cleaner engine is my thought, ay well be reet
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:23 pm |
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Joined: Sep 29, 2011 Posts: 44
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Location: Weymouth/Leamington Spa
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As of today, my 2L HDI is doing the same thing… One minute it will be fine, the next it just wont pull, judders and then pulls fine… No EML though…
I'm thinking it's injector related as it was run out of fuel about a week ago (But it has been normal until now :/)
And my injectors tick quite loudly…
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:06 pm |
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Walberino wrote: |
I have heard that unplugging the EGR would cause you to get worse MPG and reduce the life of the Turbo |
Correct.
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